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surprised he would take the id4 over ariya. the ioniq I get for the charging speed, though I think he gets it wrong with the range since they're about equal with the larger ariya battery.
I’m also surprised that he would take ID.4 over Ariya. The ID.4’s acceleration felt more punchy to me but the Ariya’s interior is so much more luxurious. It will be interesting to see if his opinion changes when he posts a full review.
 

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surprised he would take the id4 over ariya. the ioniq I get for the charging speed, though I think he gets it wrong with the range since they're about equal with the larger ariya battery.
I’m also surprised that he would take ID.4 over Ariya. The ID.4’s acceleration felt more punchy to me but the Ariya’s interior is so much more luxurious. It will be interesting to see if his opinion changes when he posts a full review.
Same here, especially with the issues VW has had with their software. I wonder if that will change if he's able to spend more time with the Ariya for a longer review.
 

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It would be mighty nice if there's a way to not get all that copper colour inside for non-copper exteriors (the horizontal line across the dash, the handles, the floor mat wording, the trim around the console cover). Firstly that is what quickly dates a car, next year it will look old. Second, to me it is just a variation on beige, don't want to be looking at it in the car. For my 2013 Ford Flex, there was a trim level that substituted graphite for some interior beige trim and I appreciate it always.
 

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To hear comments that the ID.4's acceleration is about the same (from the video) or "more punchy" from the comment above is definitely a let-down. I loved the look of the ID.4 and went to test drive one in early 2022 with plans on buying one that day after the test drive. But after driving it, I simply did not enjoy the muted acceleration. It felt like the car was holding back for fear of making the driver feel too many G's. Just as I would start to feel the G-forces push me against the seat, the ID.4 dialed the acceleration back to prevent to ease that sensation.

The other thing I could not stand with the ID.4 was the lack of full-stop with regenerative braking. Overall, it felt like an electric car trying to emulate an ICE vehicle. Which honestly, from every review of the Ariya, feels like that is what Nissan is aiming for with the driving dynamics of the Ariya. For some, that is fantastic. It is simply not for me.
 

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To hear comments that the ID.4's acceleration is about the same (from the video) or "more punchy" from the comment above is definitely a let-down. I loved the look of the ID.4 and went to test drive one in early 2022 with plans on buying one that day after the test drive. But after driving it, I simply did not enjoy the muted acceleration. It felt like the car was holding back for fear of making the driver feel too many G's. Just as I would start to feel the G-forces push me against the seat, the ID.4 dialed the acceleration back to prevent to ease that sensation.

The other thing I could not stand with the ID.4 was the lack of full-stop with regenerative braking. Overall, it felt like an electric car trying to emulate an ICE vehicle. Which honestly, from every review of the Ariya, feels like that is what Nissan is aiming for with the driving dynamics of the Ariya. For some, that is fantastic. It is simply not for me.
Ha, sorry for the let-down. The Ariya’s acceleration was definitely its weakest link. It felt lacking to me but it wasn’t so bad that I would be concerned about passing power or getting up to highway speed at an on ramp. Acceleration is still adequate but certainly no more than that and I can live with that. For what it’s worth I‘d still take the Ariya over an ID.4 if given the choice.
 

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To hear comments that the ID.4's acceleration is about the same (from the video) or "more punchy" from the comment above is definitely a let-down. I loved the look of the ID.4 and went to test drive one in early 2022 with plans on buying one that day after the test drive. But after driving it, I simply did not enjoy the muted acceleration. It felt like the car was holding back for fear of making the driver feel too many G's. Just as I would start to feel the G-forces push me against the seat, the ID.4 dialed the acceleration back to prevent to ease that sensation.

The other thing I could not stand with the ID.4 was the lack of full-stop with regenerative braking. Overall, it felt like an electric car trying to emulate an ICE vehicle. Which honestly, from every review of the Ariya, feels like that is what Nissan is aiming for with the driving dynamics of the Ariya. For some, that is fantastic. It is simply not for me.
hate to break it to you but that's exactly how my test drive felt. it was a bit of a let down having driven teslas before but not enough of a deterrent for me to not buy the ariya.
the lack of the $7500 rebate on the other hand...
 

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surprised he would take the id4 over ariya. the ioniq I get for the charging speed, though I think he gets it wrong with the range since they're about equal with the larger ariya battery.
Real world range testing at highway speeds in my opinion will be the true measuring stick for the Ariya as compared to other EVs in this segment. My hope is that two separate reviews by Thomas of Autogefuel and Bjorn Nyland who both suggest that the Ariya with its externally excited synchronous motor(s) may actually exceed EPA ratings. That said, after the Ariya is launched in the USA it will be interesting to learn how the Ariya stacks up in the 70mph real world highway range test by InsideEVs.
 

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I'm pretty sure he is talking about the AWD ID.4 . I own a RWD ID.4 and it is not "more punchy" than the FWD Ariya I test drove. The Ariya is still not a very fast car, though.
I am betting the AWD Ariya has got some kick, but the sticker price on it with no tax credit is a big pill to swallow. I still have my Ariya pre-order because I don't really need the $500 back yet and part of me is hoping for an e-Pedal software update (though I think that is unlikely). A few months ago I changed it to a Platinum+ trim since I figured that would be the only Ariya I might test drive and actually enjoy, but right now it is basically a $500 deposit on a test drive. If I end up getting a different car before then I will cancel the preorder and get the refund.

BTW: I also test-drove the RWD ID.4, so that is my frame of reference.
 

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G forces (brisk acceleration, regen with no coasting and 1 pedal driving) are so much fun from the driver's seat especially on test drives, but nausea inducing for passengers, I am glad that EVs are being made to tone it down. I understand that there is a large population of EV buyers that don't typically have passengers or just have to live with congested traffic commutes, and they adore 1 pedal driving, but personally I am glad that the non-Tesla EVs are providing options. To me, coasting and the blended braking approach is the right way to go. Engineering well done VAG. (y)
 

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The ID.4 is not a good example of a good EV driving experience. As former owner I was annoyed by the lack of auto hold (it would roll down backwards on inclines) which is now in 2022 ID.4s but horribly implemented (need to brake for 2 seconds like an ICE car) and there’s no one pedal so it creeps and never stops. Everything in the ID.4 is sloppily implemented and second rate except the suspension.

The Polestar 2 and BMW i4 (in comfort mode) are near perfect EV driving experience. Fully linear acceleration and smooth/linear regen to stop. All EVs should emulate those two. My test drive of the Ariya was smooth also. I was a passenger in the Pro Pilot 2.0 demo and a driver in the obstacle course. I was a little disappointed it crept so there’s no true one pedal driving.
 
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