Depends on what you are looking for in a car. The Ariya appears to be among the quietest for highway driving, measured by Bjorn's tests, it's quieter than regular Etron and close to Mercedes and BMW vehicles.I am also waiting for Aria Evolve+ in MA. Got the VR set email yesterday. The Tesla $7500 discount and 10k free mile charging for Model 3 is giving me second thoughts though on the value of Aria. Anyone thinking the same. I know Aria might have better build but not sure about the rest.
Based on what I read, some 2022 Mach E reservations might still be waiting. A 2023 was delivered to my order this week per the communication that Ford sent, but 2023 cost about $7000+ more than 2022. So with higher interest rates and poor financial market this year, that was too much for me.... A close examination of the Ford Mach E reservation process reveals similar frustrations as experienced with the Nissan Ariya launch. By comparison some EV‘s sold today without the aid of a reservation process has experienced other problems.
The thing about the factory window tint is that it is dark glass, it doesn't wear off or get scratched. In my current car it's in the rear side and back windows.I’m glad the windows are not tinted. I get to choose my own level of shades and the type of material to choose from (carbon vs ceramics).
Pearl White on Black looks awesome. That’s what I ordered.
Is Propilot2.0 included in all models. Or only in premiere?
Premiere and Platinum. Sorry and Empower+ as noted belowIs Propilot2.0 included in all models. Or only in premiere?
If you have the binding agreement then your delivery date is in 2022 so you can file in 2022 taxes.I may be in the $395 additional paint cost for Boulder Gray on a Venture+. Mine has ETA of 9JAN. As we head into 2023, the overall demand for vehicles is expected to decrease with supply finally catching up. As I get closer to the date, I am really starting to have some second thoughts about canceling my reservation primarily because of the high cost and limited features. I know the Venture+ is the base model, but geez with a 46k MSRP you think they could have at least included a power driver seat and some floor mats. I am also going to have wait the entire year to get the tax credit since I won't be able to file until my 2023 taxes. Also seeing the used car market on Tesla's taking a nosedive is not helping either. Looking ahead 3+ years I believe the Ariya will have significant depreciation compared to say a Tesla or hybrid because of the high MSRP and limited innovation. Not to throw shade at the Ariya, but outside of the Pro Pilot 2.0 the Ariya does not really stand out in any one area compared to the competition. Anyhow, will see once the vehicle arrives, but when started looking at the new Honda CRV Hybrid and Kia Sportage plug in hybrid, you're getting a fully decked out vehicle for not much more than the Nissan. Yes, I know gas will cost more and Maintenace, but you don't have battery degradation and if you take road trip, you're not stuck trying to plan route around access to a charger.
The rules of the IRA legislation is that all grandfathered purchases are considered delivered on August 2022 the day before the IRA was signed by Biden, regardless of physical delivery date.My delivery date is January 9, 2023, to dealer (Ancira Nissan).
Yes, When I book the Ariya, it was an estimated price of 38K, then changed to 44K now finally dealer told me it is 49K. I called Nissan about the price and the customer care guy told me all pricing will be done by the Dealer and that they don't have control over the price. It is so frustrating, is it Nissan or the Dealer who fix the price?
Unfortunately the newly updated IRS rules may change the ability to get the credit, FYI.Thanks that would help if I could get the credit on my 2022 tax return.
The actual bill signed into law says this, but the new IRS update seems to have different requirements now. FYI, so possible issue.Thank you. This is what I remember reading and it makes sense. So no matter when the car is delivered 2022 or 2023, the taxes can be filed for the 2022 to get the credit.
If you are able to get it today in 2022 then you are safer regarding the IRS credit, since the rules were updated a couple of days ago.My Boulder Grey Evolve+ arrived today at Fred Anderson Nissan in Asheville, NC! Res 136xx. I’m adding paint/seat protection, tint, and tow package - Monday p/u. A black Venture+ also arrived for someone, however the test drive Ariya did not arrive yet. Will post more on Monday ~ happy New Year! 🎉
You should try to get it purchased in 2022 to be safer regarding the tax credit. Even if you take deliver and drive out of the parking lot and back in, then they can clean it up for later pickup.I’m one of the ones in Connecticut. Got a call last night that they were shocked to see the car on the trailer. Had to confirm it was mine. I’m at the dealer as we speak and I’ll let you know the price, they are not showing that yet. 😃
There is a regulation book for vehicle class, it is old, but those are the rules they are following. A 3 row vehicle with fold down seats seems to be considered a truck (SUV) versus being a passenger car.I’m not taking the recently revealed IRS update too seriously since its full of conflicting data. For example the IRS now lists a Tesla Model Y performance that will qualify for the tax credit as long as it’s a 7 seat variant…. Tesla doesn’t offer such a version. IMO the IRA legislation has generated so many headaches for the IRS that they will likely continue to sort things out well into 2023.
The bottom image is a computer rendering, so the colors may not be accurate. All the reviews I saw show that color like in the top picture.View attachment 927
I hear what you are saying but, I ordered the Everest White Pearl Tricoat / Black Diamond Pearl exterior and the gray interior. What I got is not what I was expecting. I'm wondering, if the beige interior is a mistake, i.e., they shipped the wrong car or is this what Nissan meant by "gray." Did anyone ordered this configuration (or just a gray interior) and is experiencing the same thing, or is it just me? Here is two pictures showing the difference. View attachment 928
The other thing is the color of the light coming through the glass roof. The roof has a tint and could affect the light shining on the fabric.I suspect we’ll have to see if other” light gray “ interiors being delivered are consistent with your experience.
The Venture+ only comes with 120V charger, according to the window sticker. The others should have the dual voltage.What type of charger is included with the vehicle. 120v or 240v?
Not sure if I would test drive an Engage since it is the smaller battery, unless that is the one you plan to get. I would be concerned there are differences in the driving.I test drove my local dealers Engage trim last week. My dealer shared with me that they agreed to a pre arranged agreement with Nissan and were could not sell their demo any sooner than 6 months post delivery. An additional stipulation in this agreement was that the odometer of this demo must read no less than 4,000 miles when sold.
Do they say it came to them like that? I suppose it's possible the factory does extended checks on a few units, but we don't really know.Went to take a look at my Premiere today, and it already has 34 miles on it. Dealer couldn’t explain why. Has anyone else had this experience?
Most of the debt is based on car loans, which will be large when you have millions of loans. This will be true for most establish car companies, with millions of cars sold. From what I could find, the debt number is about half what you indicated.I recently saw a story where Nissan's CEO said they had underestimated the EV demand for North America. He added that Nissan was committing $530 million to expand EV production in the U.S., coming on line in 2024 or 25. This from a company that has 63 billion dollars in long-term debt. Meanwhile, Tesla is working on a 1.5 billon dollar expansion on its Texas giga-factory. Is this a question of too little, too late for Nissan. Down the road, will they even be around to provide service and support on the Ariyas now being delivered? We can only hope!
I won't bother watching it, since Nissan currently sells 3-4 EV models now, that makes them much further ahead than competing Japanese brands and other legacy brands. They just need to get the factories set up to make higher volumes. The Ariya factory video is impressive, from what it appears only seats and some interior parts are put in by people, the rest is basically automated. Though there is probably more labor during the battery/chassis build that isn't seen.I know his channel. This guy had always bad mouthed Nissan.