[ab13]

Compare Side-by-Side

Compare the MPG of cars and trucks side-by-side. Compare the gas mileage and greenhouse gas emissions of new and used cars and trucks

www.fueleconomy.gov

 

[Astros]

From the linked site:

 

[ab13]

That's unusual, I see numbers as 33 and 34 kWh/100mi

 

[Astros]

That's unusual, I see numbers as 33 and 34 kWh/100mi

Very strange. I get the numbers you see in my screenshot if I follow the link using Safari as my browser, but get your numbers (33 and 34 kWh/100mi) if I follow the link using Chrome. There are many differences with Chrome as well: total range is displayed and the annual cost is lower. Guess I should switch to using Chrome as my browser to get better efficiency with my new car?

 

[ab13]

Attaching what I see, I added Mach E for comparison since it has the closest size and efficiency ratings. In highway testing Mach E was getting +/-6% of the rated range. So if Ariya can do that, it looks good.

 

[dafish]

Good Find!

I don't know the frontal area of either vehicle, but I suspect highway, and certainly interstate, performance of the Ariya will not match the Mach E.

Meanwhile I'm interested in what we'll see from conditioning demand. Experience to date suggest winter months here in the midwest carry a really heavy range hit.

 

[voxel]

Attaching what I see, I added Mach E for comparison since it has the closest size and efficiency ratings. In highway testing Mach E was getting +/-6% of the rated range. So if Ariya can do that, it looks good.

Mach-E vastly understated their numbers in 2021. Ford has now adjusted their EPA numbers to match reality. I think Mach-E Premium AWD ER is now 290+? Back in 2021 it was 272? Nothing changed. Ford did unlock software unlock a 3 kWh buffer between 2021 and 2022 but it's the same battery pack.

EDIT: Mach-E is not a very efficient EV. Probably on the lower end of efficiency but like everything in America... you compensate by slapping a massive 99 kWh battery in it.

 

[voxel]

So somewhere between a Mach-E and EV6 for efficiency. Battery pack is smaller than the Mach-E (99kWh with 91 kWh usable) but larger than the EV6 (77 kWh usable). The 2023 EPA range for the Mach-E is about 290.

 

[EarlyEVadopter]

So somewhere between a Mach-E and EV6 for efficiency. Battery pack is smaller than the Mach-E (99kWh with 91 kWh usable) but larger than the EV6 (77 kWh usable). The 2023 EPA range for the Mach-E is about 290.

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FWD Ariya range as compared to AWD Mach E /ID.4?

 

[voxel]

FWD Ariya range as compared to AWD Mach E /ID.4?

There was no AWD Ariya option. I guess we won’t be seeing the Platinum+ trim for a few months then.

FWD/RWD vs AWD usually isn’t a huge difference unless tire size/width/compound changes. The Mach-E’s permanent magnet front motor is one of the least efficient designs though. The ID.4 uses an induction front motor. The Korean E-GMP EVs disconnect the front motor entirely (below 76mph).

 

[JrBrowzer]

Compare Side-by-Side

Compare the MPG of cars and trucks side-by-side. Compare the gas mileage and greenhouse gas emissions of new and used cars and trucks

www.fueleconomy.gov

Thanks for the info. Based on these estimates, my electric consumption will be 28% of what I pay for gas annually!