[Jayway]

I just got my Binding Legal contract offer from Nissan. I accepted and hopefully it all moves forward from here,

jay Streets

 

[FolsomCa]

From Nissan? or your local dealer. what was your reservation#

 

[Jayway]

From Nissan!!!!!!

Urgent information about your ARIYA* reservation.​ ​ Jay, As an ARIYA* reservationist, you may have seen recent news about the proposed Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) and have questions about how it may impact your eligibility for the currently available up to $7,500 federal EV tax credit. We are here to keep you informed and to try to help put you in the best position to claim any EV tax credit that may otherwise be available to you under current law. Here’s what you should know This bill has already been passed by the Senate, could be voted on in the House as early as today, and is very likely to be signed into law by the President as early as August 13th if not sooner. Once enacted, there will be new requirements that all electric vehicles must meet to qualify for any EV tax credit, which may impact your ability to take advantage of the credit. Here’s what you can do now The proposed IRA provides that taxpayers who have a “written, binding contract to purchase” a vehicle that qualifies for an EV tax credit under current law will be eligible for any credit available to them under existing law. In order to help put you in the best position for potential federal EV tax credit eligibility, if you are prepared to commit to the future purchase of an ARIYA,* Nissan is offering an Agreement to Purchase an ARIYA* vehicle in the future from an authorized Nissan dealer of your choosing. Please note this step is not necessary to maintain your reservation. Nissan cannot guarantee the availability of any EV tax credit. You should consult with your own tax advisor concerning eligibility for any credit. Because the IRA could be enacted at any time, we encourage you to act as soon as possible. Simply click below to review the Agreement to Purchase and accept it.​ REVIEW AND AGREE​ YOUR RESERVATION ID:** 10596​ Update email address | Unsubscribe | Privacy policy​ * Nissan ARIYA not yet available for purchase. Expected availability Late Fall 2022. Pre-production model shown. Actual production model may vary. ** $500 reservation fee required to reserve a Nissan ARIYA. Reservations might exceed initial production levels; therefore, Nissan cannot guarantee delivery of a 2023 ARIYA by any specific date. The $500 reservation fee is fully refundable at any time to your original form of payment. At the time of purchase, you may apply the $500 reservation fee toward the purchase of your reserved ARIYA. Excludes taxes, title, license and options. ARIYA available for purchase expected Late Fall 2022. Always wear your seat belt, and please don't drink and drive. © 2022 Nissan North America, Inc. All rights reserved. If you would like more information from Nissan about their products, visit NissanUSA.com or write them at: Nissan Marketing Mail Stop P3C P.O. Box 685003 Franklin, TN 37068-5003

 

[Jayway]

From Nissan? or your local dealer. what was your reservation#

From Nissan North America,
number 10596

 

[FolsomCa]

Thanks, I just received and signed mine also keep fingers crossed. #13902 Evolve they must have been getting massive calls....

 

[Starkitect19]

Hello everyone. I’ve lurked around this forum for a while but I never posted because I thought I would ultimately buy a Volkswagen ID.4 until today. Long story short, VW delayed my order for months and then I fell in love with the Ariya at the Ride & Drive event, and now Nissan (hopefully) saved my EV tax credit with the purchase agreement so my backup plan to buy the Ariya just became Plan A!

Do you all feel fairly confident that the signed purchase agreement will be enough to protect the old EV tax credit? I’m wondering if I should also get a buyer’s order from my dealer to be safe?

 

[Nissan79]

Hello everyone. I’ve lurked around this forum for a while but I never posted because I thought I would ultimately buy a Volkswagen ID.4 until today. Long story short, VW delayed my order for months and then I fell in love with the Ariya at the Ride & Drive event, and now Nissan (hopefully) saved my EV tax credit with the purchase agreement so my backup plan to buy the Ariya just became Plan A!

Do you all feel fairly confident that the signed purchase agreement will be enough to protect the old EV tax credit? I’m wondering if I should also get a buyer’s order from my dealer to be safe?

I have about equal confidence in a Vehicle Buyer's Order and this Agreement To Purchase order that I digitally signed today. But 'equal' means I am only about 50% confident that this will be enough to ensure we are grandfathered into the existing (as of today) EV Tax Credit criteria.

But I'm 100% confident that Nissan did more than most other EV manufacturers to 'make this right', and did everything it could to make sense of what is a purposefully baffling set of new criteria that has upset the entire EV industry, simply because Ford and GM have a powerful lobby in Washington DC.

Look, I'm all for 'buying American', when American industry offers a better product. But it's not doing that; and it's really disappointing to see the American auto industry resort to obviously unfair political tricks to lock out their overseas competitors. Fine, if American manufacturers want me to buy their EV offerings over the Japanese competition, then just build a better car - I'll buy it! But they didn't build a better car, or at least haven't yet. This is not the America that I know. This is shady, backdoor, greasy politics - and nothing more.

I can say that if we aren't allowed to grandfather our preorders, I will definitely include myself in any class action lawsuit that finds traction as a result. Heck, I may even investigate how to initiate one myself.

 

[AJB]

I just got my Binding Legal contract offer from Nissan. I accepted and hopefully it all moves forward from here,

jay Streets

I think that had nothing to do with your purchase. The dealer called me before I got the contract. He explained that in order to get the pre-Inflation Reduction Act tax credit you need a binding contract before the new act goes into effect.

 

[Moonchic]

What is the penalty for “breaking” this “binding agreement” if we don’t move forward with the purchase?
I want to sign but it seems strange.

 

[MIG]

Just received and signed mine

 

[MIG]

I signed as well. Did anyone get an email confirmation afterwards?

 

[FolsomCa]

Your confirmation is when it says NEXT and says print Agreement Confirmation. I just left Nissan Dealer he told me everyone Nationwide with Reservation will get MSRP. MSRP will be higher if it comes from factory with upgrades?Out of our hands.

 

[AJB]

What is the penalty for “breaking” this “binding agreement” if we don’t move forward with the purchase?
I want to sign but it seems strange.

There’s nothing in the contract indicating a penalty. In fact, the contract is between you and Nissan USA, not the dealer. You might not get your $500 deposit back. The dealer, on the other hand, might not care. It would have a popular car on the lot and charge a markup over MSRP.

 

[jag]

I signed as well. Did anyone get an email confirmation afterwards?

No. Simply a conformation for you to print as your copy of the binding contract.

 

[dyc488]

There’s nothing in the contract indicating a penalty. In fact, the contract is between you and Nissan USA, not the dealer. You might not get your $500 deposit back. The dealer, on the other hand, might not care. It would have a popular car on the lot and charge a markup over MSRP.

I got a call back from Nissan USA on my problems with the assigned dealer. I asked was the deposit still refundable if you sign the agreement. The person said yes. But their holding the money and you only have a verbal discussion with nothing in writing. I will cancel before letting a bad dealer get the car. My expectation is very low that I will get an Ariya. With losing the tax credit with an expensive EV, I will be cancelling soon. The Nissan USA don't seem to know what's going on with the dealers.

 

[Moonchic]

I got a call back from Nissan USA on my problems with the assigned dealer. I asked was the deposit still refundable if you sign the agreement. The person said yes. But their holding the money and you only have a verbal discussion with nothing in writing. I will cancel before letting a bad dealer get the car. My expectation is very low that I will get an Ariya. With losing the tax credit with an expensive EV, I will be cancelling soon. The Nissan USA don't seem to know what's going on with the dealers.

This is what’s so appealing about Tesla. Not having to deal with dealers for our Model 3 was a dreaaammm…

I had ordered a Model Y (before the ridiculous price hikes)…then our 3 got broken into and my experience with Tesla service has been so hellish that I canceled the Y and decided to go with an Ariya instead. I’m starting to think I might not be getting one either, if dealers are just sharking it up even with reservation holders.

So frustrating.

 

[dyc488]

This is what’s so appealing about Tesla. Not having to deal with dealers for our Model 3 was a dreaaammm…

I had ordered a Model Y (before the ridiculous price hikes)…then our 3 got broken into and my experience with Tesla service has been so hellish that I canceled the Y and decided to go with an Ariya instead. I’m starting to think I might not be getting one either, if dealers are just sharking it up even with reservation holders.

So frustrating.

I totally agreed with you. In 2020 and 2021, was looking for a Toyota RAV4 Prime. Toyota dealers were all bad Went into the Tesla location near where we live for a test drive. Love the acceleration and feel of the car. After the test drive, they ask did I want to buy one. I reply I wasn't sure about the 4 month wait but was told he would get me one in two weeks. Love my M3SR+ which has had no problems. We were a toyota family with all 6 cars made by them.

Decided to buy another EV (also considered the Y) but heard about sevice issues. Add the higher price with serviceability issues pushed us to Nissan, VW, Kia. Has reservations for all of them. The dealer i was assign does not want to talk pricing so I move to another dealer. No callback as Its not a priority to talk pricing as they don't make a penny at this point. VW sent an e-mail asking me to increase my deposit and finalize my options. The Ariya is way nicer (love the screens) but the ID4 will be at MSRP and get here end of year from Tennessee. I don't expect to close a deal on the Ariya and told Nissan USA person this on a call.

 

[Moonchic]

Have you test driven the ID4? It had such disappointingly cheap interior, and horribly laggy infotainment screen. I wanted to love it, as I think the exterior is gorgeous and looks closest to a traditional SUV….but alas, the interior changed my mind.

 

[dyc488]

No, I have not. VW in my area have sold out all their ID4s. I have asked the dealer whether I can check out one being picked up but they never got back to me. I agree, from pics the interior looks cheap. Love the two screens on the Ariya as oppose to taking my eyes off the road to chain streaming channels on the Tesla. I'm also concern with first years car from a new plant for the ID4 coming from Tennesse . VW contacted me to finalize my order. The sales guy said it will probably come in first quarter 2023. I may pass on it.

The Mitsubushi 2023 Outlander PHEV is coming out in November. While its a hybrid it may handle my daily driving in EV and good for roadtrips. Without the tax credit, the $50K+ for a Ariya and waiting over a year leave me looking for another EV.

 

[AJB]

Have you test driven the ID4? It had such disappointingly cheap interior, and horribly laggy infotainment screen. I wanted to love it, as I think the exterior is gorgeous and looks closest to a traditional SUV….but alas, the interior changed my mind.

I had the exact same reaction.