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It was a tough decision but had to do it. :cautious:. The loss of the rebate with the ride impressions from reviews added up to my decision.
On the plus side someone just moved up the line for a Platinum+ :sneaky:.

My personal reasons were as follows:
Pros: Software should be reliable and less glitchy, Nissan's EV space experience, Nissan reliability (have leased 2 leafs original current version).
Cons: Exterior Design (especially the rear, I know this is subjective), Barrage of reviews that don't like the drive / ride / suspension dynamics (This is really worrisome, even though they may fine tune it for North America). Loss of the $7,500 Rebate and lastly, I don't think I will see it any time this year.

Have a Lyriq on order that I will accept, more money but hopefully a better option for me as I am liking what I hear about the GM Super cruise.
 

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Huh, I haven't seen any negative reviews yet - especially regarding the driving dynamics. In any case, I may not end up buying, but I'm holding on to the reservation until the last minute. Never know what may happen, and it's good to have a spot in line in case I really need to replace a vehicle.
 

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Huh, I haven't seen any negative reviews yet - especially regarding the driving dynamics. In any case, I may not end up buying, but I'm holding on to the reservation until the last minute. Never know what may happen, and it's good to have a spot in line in case I really need to replace a vehicle.
So far I've test driven the Ariya, ID.4 & EV6 and I thought the Ariya by far had the best ride quality of the 3...and the cabin was luxury car quiet. I was very impressed. I'm surprised to hear about the negative reviews. The acceleration of the FWD Ariya was kind of meh but I felt like all the other pros far outweigh that con.
 

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It was a tough decision but had to do it. :cautious:. The loss of the rebate with the ride impressions from reviews added up to my decision.
On the plus side someone just moved up the line for a Platinum+ :sneaky:.

My personal reasons were as follows:
Pros: Software should be reliable and less glitchy, Nissan's EV space experience, Nissan reliability (have leased 2 leafs original current version).
Cons: Exterior Design (especially the rear, I know this is subjective), Barrage of reviews that don't like the drive / ride / suspension dynamics (This is really worrisome, even though they may fine tune it for North America). Loss of the $7,500 Rebate and lastly, I don't think I will see it any time this year.

Have a Lyriq on order that I will accept, more money but hopefully a better option for me as I am liking what I hear about the GM Super cruise.
Super Cruise is a monthly subscription after a few years. No thanks.
 

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It was a tough decision but had to do it. :cautious:. The loss of the rebate with the ride impressions from reviews added up to my decision. On the plus side someone just moved up the line for a Platinum+ :sneaky:. My personal reasons were as follows: Pros: Software should be reliable and less glitchy, Nissan's EV space experience, Nissan reliability (have leased 2 leafs original current version). Cons: Exterior Design (especially the rear, I know this is subjective), Barrage of reviews that don't like the drive / ride / suspension dynamics (This is really worrisome, even though they may fine tune it for North America). Loss of the $7,500 Rebate and lastly, I don't think I will see it any time this year. Have a Lyriq on order that I will accept, more money but hopefully a better option for me as I am liking what I hear about the GM Super cruise.
I'm curious --- why cancel now? Why not wait it out to see what more we see more reviews? I can see ordering when they call to tell you it's time to order. But now?
 

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Where did you see this? At the drive event I recall them saying it would be free “for a few years” but they couldn’t commit beyond that. I don’t think it was going to cost anything right away.
Our dealership told us there should be a free period, but after that would a connected service to get the HD map data... I'm just hoping it won't be too much
 

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I'm curious --- why cancel now? Why not wait it out to see what more we see more reviews? I can see ordering when they call to tell you it's time to order. But now?
Mostly personal reasons, $58K is more than I'm willing to pay for the Ariya, I won't qualify for the Rebate next year, almost no chance I will see the AWD this year. Have an ID4 now with surprisingly good ride quality which is mentioned in most reviews, (watching the reviews of the Ariya there are just too many people that briefly suggest the busy suspension as a problem, and I have gotten better from past experience at reading between the lines of these Manufacturer invited reviews, that tactfully gloss over the problems, in an effort to maintain their integrity while not upsetting the host.)
Last straw was the IRS has the FWD Ariya listed as eligible for the Rebate but not he AWD. Maybe they know that the AWD isn't coming this year too. [ IRC 30D New Qualified Plug-In Electric Drive Motor Vehicle Credit | Internal Revenue Service (irs.gov)]
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Mostly personal reasons, $58K is more than I'm willing to pay for the Ariya, I won't qualify for the Rebate next year, almost no chance I will see the AWD this year. Have an ID4 now with surprisingly good ride quality which is mentioned in most reviews, (watching the reviews of the Ariya there are just too many people that briefly suggest the busy suspension as a problem, and I have gotten better from past experience at reading between the lines of these Manufacturer invited reviews, that tactfully gloss over the problems, in an effort to maintain their integrity while not upsetting the host.)
Last straw was the IRS has the FWD Ariya listed as eligible for the Rebate but not he AWD. Maybe they know that the AWD isn't coming this year too. [ IRC 30D New Qualified Plug-In Electric Drive Motor Vehicle Credit | Internal Revenue Service (irs.gov)]
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Got me excited for a minute thinking the IRS listed the ariya as eligible, and then I realized this is for business use.
 

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Hey! My wife is registering her Ayria as business vehicle. Works for beverage company.. driving store to store everyday...Does that mean she qualifies for the 7500 credit?
Based on the rules of the Inflation Reduction Act I don't think the Ariya will be eligible for the $7500 credit.

 

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I don't get the obsession with the tax credit. This year, EVs will sell out regardless of them. Ford raised prices for the Mach-E significantly basically negating any benefit of the continuation of the tax credit for them.

I had an 2021 ID.4... it was cheap and budgety. An equivalent gas SUV would cost $15K less. The mid-spec Ariya I test drove was already far more luxurious and feature complete than the top trim 2022 ID.4 Pro S Gradient ($52.5K) I declined last month after a 10 month wait. The Platinum+ is definitely worth $58K when you have a Model Y at $66K and other Korean EVs around the same price point with smaller batteries (lower range) and even fewer features. To get equivalent set of features (360 camera, hands-free driving, HUD, digital rear view mirror, premium audio, larger than 80 kWh battery, etc) you have to move to a BMW iX which is about $100K+

I'm a current owner of an BMW i4 and while it's a fantastic EV/car... I'm not paying $110K for an SUV version in the iX when the Ariya Platinum+ is almost as nice for half the price.

I also have a Lyriq RWD order at $62K - that I thought without the tax credit was a great deal - but now with the possibility of a tax credit for it... it would be a downright steal.
 

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I don't get the obsession with the tax credit. This year, EVs will sell out regardless of them. Ford raised prices for the Mach-E significantly basically negating any benefit of the continuation of the tax credit for them.

I had an 2021 ID.4... it was cheap and budgety. An equivalent gas SUV would cost $15K less. The mid-spec Ariya I test drove was already far more luxurious and feature complete than the top trim 2022 ID.4 Pro S Gradient ($52.5K) I declined last month after a 10 month wait. The Platinum+ is definitely worth $58K when you have a Model Y at $66K and other Korean EVs around the same price point with smaller batteries (lower range) and even fewer features. To get equivalent set of features (360 camera, hands-free driving, HUD, digital rear view mirror, premium audio, larger than 80 kWh battery, etc) you have to move to a BMW iX which is about $100K+

I'm a current owner of an BMW i4 and while it's a fantastic EV/car... I'm not paying $110K for an SUV version in the iX when the Ariya Platinum+ is almost as nice for half the price.

I also have a Lyriq RWD order at $62K - that I thought without the tax credit was a great deal - but now with the possibility of a tax credit for it... it would be a downright steal.
I think it might be brand specific. Looking at how Volvo plugins and evs sales are down the month right after the removal of the tax credit. And they have lots of stock in their dealerships and no one is buying them.
 

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I think it might be brand specific. Looking at how Volvo plugins and evs sales are down the month right after the removal of the tax credit. And they have lots of stock in their dealerships and no one is buying them.
Volvo and Polestar always had short delivery dates because they had the lowest EV demand compared to other brands. Without the tax credit, they are one of the most expensive EVs without the luxury tag.

I test drove the Polestar 2 with Performance pack the day after I bought my i4 (used - with Adaptive Suspension) and for $60K it was not in the same class as the BMW. It felt like a $50K EV.
 

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can you provide links to the reviews that show the problems you stated?

so far the only delivered Ariyas are in Japan and UK. All the REAL customers in UK are unanimous that the ride quality is above anything they’ve seen.

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Im confused. Problems with the ID.4? I could write a essay lol. I haven’t mentioned a thing about the Ariya except list the feature set and mention my test drive.
 

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Cons: Exterior Design (especially the rear, I know this is subjective), Barrage of reviews that don't like the drive / ride / suspension dynamics (This is really worrisome, even though they may fine tune it for North America)
Ok, I’m super confused. I haven’t posted at all about the reviews or ride quality (which I like). You might be confused with somebody else. Can you quote something I wrote discussing the ride quality?
 
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