Are you referring to the "e-step" feature? This should not engage the physical/friction brakes at all, its only regenerative. It will not bring your vehicle to a complete stop.
E-Step more economy?
Has anyone tested to see if you get better economy using e-step than without it on? I would think it would be more economical but, the way it engages the brake makes me think their is some friction braking involved.
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I've been experimenting with that, too. I haven't "collected enough data" yet though! 😆Has anyone tested to see if you get better economy using e-pedal than without it on? I would think it would be more economical but, the way it engages the brake makes me think their is some friction braking involved.
Watch your break when you let off the accelerator pedal, the break pedal gets automatically depressed. It might not slow you to a stop but the break pedal is being usedAre you referring to the "e-step" feature? This should not engage the physical/friction brakes at all, its only regenerative. It will not bring your vehicle to a complete stop.
The brake pedal engages regenerative braking, until regeneration is maxed out, then friction is added. As far as I can tell, the blue range in the power meter is regeneration, until it reaches the max level.Watch your break when you let off the accelerator pedal, the break pedal gets automatically depressed. It might not slow you to a stop but the break pedal is being used
Still, it depends on how you drive. On my Eco score after driving I've gotten between 9 and 13 miles of regeneration on a 69-70 mile drive. I don't use any of these setting, just standard drive mode, but I drive with "hyper mile" style technique and coast a lot.
The Ariya uses a blended brake system - it starts off with electronic regen, but only engages the friction brakes once you depress it further. I personally don't like the feel of it and would prefer the brake pedal to just actuate friction brakes.Watch your break when you let off the accelerator pedal, the break pedal gets automatically depressed. It might not slow you to a stop but the break pedal is being used
Estep is measurable if you look at the instrument cluster. It calculates how much much regen you achieved in milesHas anyone tested to see if you get better economy using e-step than without it on? I would think it would be more economical but, the way it engages the brake makes me think their is some friction braking involved.
A couple weeks ago I switched from B mode to eStep. My range and Regen hasn't changed noticeably. That might not be the case for D mode drivers going to eStep though.Has anyone tested to see if you get better economy using e-step than without it on? I would think it would be more economical but, the way it engages the brake makes me think their is some friction braking involved.
IMO its all about the brake pedal. It will move as you let up on the accelerator with e-step enabled. E-step from what I can tell just allows you to keep your foot off the brake until the last few mph. Depending on how hard you depress the brake determines whether its all regen or a blend of the friction brakes. As for D vs B, I believe it just changes the amount of g force you experience from regen braking ( if my memory is correct .1g to .12g or something like that) I would not expect any difference at all between E-step vs. brake pedal nor D vs B when it comes to regen miles accumulated. Only my supposition, so I'd love to see some data.
After experimenting with the different driving modes on my Ariya since getting it 4 months ago I've found myself driving in E-Step if it's urban driving and B mode with anything that has long steady-state driving like on the highway. I have noticed a slight efficiency gain with E-Step around town with stop-and-go driving since it's more aggressive with initiating regen. For highway-driving though I prefer B mode since it gives better throttle response, and the regen is less aggressive and will let you coast better when letting off the gas versus E-Step which demands more finesse on the throttle when letting off to avoid it abruptly transitioning to braking.
I hardly ever just use D mode alone since it gives much less regen than either B mode alone or E-Step activated.
I hardly ever just use D mode alone since it gives much less regen than either B mode alone or E-Step activated.
You can also look at Sport mode. However, note that I only see E step put the brake lights on. B mode and drive modes do not. Though it is easier to shift in and out of B modeAfter experimenting with the different driving modes on my Ariya since getting it 4 months ago I've found myself driving in E-Step if it's urban driving and B mode with anything that has long steady-state driving like on the highway. I have noticed a slight efficiency gain with E-Step around town with stop-and-go driving since it's more aggressive with initiating regen. For highway-driving though I prefer B mode since it gives better throttle response, and the regen is less aggressive and will let you coast better when letting off the gas versus E-Step which demands more finesse on the throttle when letting off to avoid it abruptly transitioning to braking.
I hardly ever just use D mode alone since it gives much less regen than either B mode alone or E-Step activated.
Eco mode, full coasting, no regenerative braking when off accelerator, very soft accelerator pedal feel
Standard mode, slight Regen with foot off pedal, similar to Toyota Hybrid
Sport mode, greater Regen sort of like manual transmission taking foot off pedal, gear/engine braking.
So here’s what I’ve noticed on my e4orce model…
With D or B mode, it’s obvious to see how much regenerative braking is being done by the forward and rear motors. When e-step is engaged, the AWD motor control screen shows absolutely zero regenerating happening with either the front or rear motors.
With D or B mode, it’s obvious to see how much regenerative braking is being done by the forward and rear motors. When e-step is engaged, the AWD motor control screen shows absolutely zero regenerating happening with either the front or rear motors.
As the weather becomes more comfortable, my Evolve+ is now saying that it uses 16.1 kWh per 100 km, about 515 km for a full charge of 87 KWh. Mixed drive conditions, no E-step, Drive mode (not "B" mode), Standard mode too. Well, this is more than enough for me to be happy with my Ariya. Of course I do not drive it for hypermileage, and not like a race car either. Just as I have done with my previous ICE vehicles. Live long and problemless, Ariya!
When I did my drive up to Bear Big Lake on the mountain curvy roads with B mode and Estep, I was shocked how much free miles I got from my regen.After experimenting with the different driving modes on my Ariya since getting it 4 months ago I've found myself driving in E-Step if it's urban driving and B mode with anything that has long steady-state driving like on the highway. I have noticed a slight efficiency gain with E-Step around town with stop-and-go driving since it's more aggressive with initiating regen. For highway-driving though I prefer B mode since it gives better throttle response, and the regen is less aggressive and will let you coast better when letting off the gas versus E-Step which demands more finesse on the throttle when letting off to avoid it abruptly transitioning to braking.
I hardly ever just use D mode alone since it gives much less regen than either B mode alone or E-Step activated.
(My default settings are Standard mode with Estep on).
I use B mode and Estep in almost exclusively in town driving here in Bend. I have achieved as much as 9.3 miles per kwh and charged to 375 miles on the last level 2 charge. We've had the car for a month and are just about to turn 1k miles on the odometer. I charge once a week when the battery still shows about 50%. Our driving style with the Ariya Evolve+ mimics how we drove the 2017 Leaf for six years, with vastly different results because this is a much improved EV.
Going on 2 months in my Evolve+ but now exclusively drive in Eco, E-step in B. The car has enough power in this setting. I notice the increase in acceleration on the few times I forgot to put in in Eco. The stats says I'm getting 3 mile per kwh. Car charges to over 300 miles in range if I charge up to 100% SOC and 280 at 85%. Starting to get comfortable just charging to 80-85% SOC which takes about 45 minutes at EVgo with their 100 KW chargers.After experimenting with the different driving modes on my Ariya since getting it 4 months ago I've found myself driving in E-Step if it's urban driving and B mode with anything that has long steady-state driving like on the highway. I have noticed a slight efficiency gain with E-Step around town with stop-and-go driving since it's more aggressive with initiating regen. For highway-driving though I prefer B mode since it gives better throttle response, and the regen is less aggressive and will let you coast better when letting off the gas versus E-Step which demands more finesse on the throttle when letting off to avoid it abruptly transitioning to braking.
I hardly ever just use D mode alone since it gives much less regen than either B mode alone or E-Step activated.
Hoping Nissan will upgrade the software to save Eco and B as default settings.
I had to turn e-stop off and stop using Eco mode because I had to use so much force when stepping on the accelerator pedal that it was hurting my feet (arthritis in my toes), which is a bummer. Driving B mode in standard doesn’t seem to cause me the same problem.
I too hope
Nissan will upgrade the software to save Eco and B as default settings.
Nissan will upgrade the software to save Eco and B as default settings.
Do you have an option to charge at home with a level 2 charger? If so p, your battery will be much happier for the long haul vs charging repeatedly with a level 3 charger.Going on 2 months in my Evolve+ but now exclusively drive in Eco, E-step in B. The car has enough power in this setting. I notice the increase in acceleration on the few times I forgot to put in in Eco. The stats says I'm getting 3 mile per kwh. Car charges to over 300 miles in range if I charge up to 100% SOC and 280 at 85%. Starting to get comfortable just charging to 80-85% SOC which takes about 45 minutes at EVgo with their 100 KW chargers.
Hoping Nissan will upgrade the software to save Eco and B as default settings.
I am not usually preoccupied with range, but e-step still interests me for safety reasons. I like to use it in school zones and on neighborhood streets where you can expect children or pets to pop up unexpectedly. E-step starts slowing the ARIYA as soon as you start to release the accelerator, saving the fraction of a second it takes your foot to move from the accelerator pedal to the brake pedal. This may reduce your stopping distance slightly and avoid a tragedy.
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