I don’t know how autocharge+ works. I always have to start w the EVgo app. Have to follow both prompts from charge screen and app. Could be EVgo stations near us are old model. Just 50kW type so 1% for 1 min roughly…
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Let’s have a general discussion on this subject matter.
For those who are waiting for their Ariyas, I recommend that you sign up with EVGO now so that when your vehicle is ready, you’ll have your EVGO card ready for use. You can always enter your vin # at a later time. While you are at it, download their app as well as Plugshare app.
Note, it took me 14 days for me to get my EVGO card to arrive in the mail.
For those who are waiting for their Ariyas, I recommend that you sign up with EVGO now so that when your vehicle is ready, you’ll have your EVGO card ready for use. You can always enter your vin # at a later time. While you are at it, download their app as well as Plugshare app.
Note, it took me 14 days for me to get my EVGO card to arrive in the mail.
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They have an instruction page and even a video showing how to set it up. Once the car is registered the first time, you just plug in to charge.I don’t know how autocharge+ works. I always have to start w the EVgo app. Have to follow both prompts from charge screen and app. Could be EVgo stations near us are old model. Just 50kW type so 1% for 1 min roughly…
It was almost smooth to setup. I got the VIN and everything set up on the account, just needed to go to a station, initiate a charge, and then plug in. Unfortunately, the 350kw station I went to was broken. Took a while to figure out since I kept getting a "something went wrong, please try again" error. I called EVgo and they confirmed the station was down. The only available station was 100kw. It took a little bit of time to initiate the communication, but it worked and I'm now set for autocharge+.They have an instruction page and even a video showing how to set it up. Once the car is registered the first time, you just plug in to charge.
There was another 350kw port, but it was being used by a Bolt. The Bolt only pulls 50kw, so I don't know why he didn't use the two other 100kw stations that were available. EVgo also has a charge timer of 60 minutes, and he was sitting in the car to wait for it, so he actually had to unplug and replug to initiate his second session on the 350kw port. Sigh...
well, if we encounter inconsiderate ppl, then we're stuck.. just like the guy who stopped my charging to start his.. good thing, my phone texted me when charging started and ended, so that's why I knew...
@ab13 The EVgo station, I plugged in, press "Start charging" on screen, but it told me to see app, I had to open app, picked the station name, and initiated there, took a few seconds for communication to start then it started charging on its own. It's not quite the exact steps shown on the FAQs, but I think it worked. If that's how autocharge+ works, then I guess that's it... Those stations around me are quite old...
@ab13 The EVgo station, I plugged in, press "Start charging" on screen, but it told me to see app, I had to open app, picked the station name, and initiated there, took a few seconds for communication to start then it started charging on its own. It's not quite the exact steps shown on the FAQs, but I think it worked. If that's how autocharge+ works, then I guess that's it... Those stations around me are quite old...
ChargePoint recently patented a system for dynamically allocating the power delivered. If they go through with it, it could allocate power based on what the car can actually draw. (And also provide more power to premium account members.) ChargePoint still has a ways to go to deploy more chargers (and fix the broken ones), but an interesting idea to give them an edge over EVgo and EA.well, if we encounter inconsiderate ppl, then we're stuck.. just like the guy who stopped my charging to start his.. good thing, my phone texted me when charging started and ended, so that's why I knew...
Today is EXACTLY 3 months of ownership with my Ariya (purchased on Feb 1st). I created a spreadsheet and manually entered the raw data to determine my EVGO usage. This data includes this morning's charging after I came back from Big Bear Mtn (Lake) on Sunday. As of NOW, I have 3993 miles on the ODOM.
I have used EVGO exclusively since purchased. Of course, taking full advantage of the unlimited charging for the first year is what drives my TCO down to the bare bone.
My data shows (Feb1 to May 1st):
Please note that I did not use my Ariya to drive to Las Vegas and back....
Knowing this data, how much would it cost me each time I charge up? The average dispensed is 59.46 kWh multiple by $.42 = $24.97.
Because driving the Ariya is so much FUN, I drove much more than I normally would if I was using my Volvo SUV.
The funny thing is is that I have YET to start my summer mini road trips in my Ariya. I will not use my Ariya if the destination is greater than 200-225 miles one way. (I don't like to stop along the way to recharge and wait around for 45 minutes using 350 kW charger).
So, when someone says buying a Tesla MY would earn them $7500 IRA over the Ariya, here's my data:
1) cheaper to insure on the Ariya
2) Save $2000 the first year on EVGO promotion
3) Car registration renewal about the same for both MY and Ariya;
4) Ariya has WAY MORE FEATURES than MY (panaromic moonroof + sunshade cover, rear spoiler + wiper, dual color combo, etc etc etc). How much are these features worth? Over $7500?
5) Nissan offered 2.59% interest at the time (although I paid cash) vs buying a Tesla at today's rate of over 6%
I have used EVGO exclusively since purchased. Of course, taking full advantage of the unlimited charging for the first year is what drives my TCO down to the bare bone.
My data shows (Feb1 to May 1st):
- I visited EVGO 21 times
- 943 minutes spent at EVGO. On average, each visit to EVGO is 44.9 minutes (943/21) of waiting around
- I dispensed a total of 1,248.66 kWh. On average, each visit to EVGO is 59.46 kWh (1248.66/21). Please keep in mind that the Ariya battery size is 87 kWh
- Grand TOTAL: Assuming peak time hourly rate of $.42/kW, I would have spent $524.43 if there was NO EVGO promotion with Nissan. (1,248.66 x $.42).
- ANNUAL SAVINGS: $524.43 x 4 quarters = $2,097.749 approximately
Please note that I did not use my Ariya to drive to Las Vegas and back....
Knowing this data, how much would it cost me each time I charge up? The average dispensed is 59.46 kWh multiple by $.42 = $24.97.
Because driving the Ariya is so much FUN, I drove much more than I normally would if I was using my Volvo SUV.
The funny thing is is that I have YET to start my summer mini road trips in my Ariya. I will not use my Ariya if the destination is greater than 200-225 miles one way. (I don't like to stop along the way to recharge and wait around for 45 minutes using 350 kW charger).
So, when someone says buying a Tesla MY would earn them $7500 IRA over the Ariya, here's my data:
1) cheaper to insure on the Ariya
2) Save $2000 the first year on EVGO promotion
3) Car registration renewal about the same for both MY and Ariya;
4) Ariya has WAY MORE FEATURES than MY (panaromic moonroof + sunshade cover, rear spoiler + wiper, dual color combo, etc etc etc). How much are these features worth? Over $7500?
5) Nissan offered 2.59% interest at the time (although I paid cash) vs buying a Tesla at today's rate of over 6%
Seems like an important consideration if you're unable to take it on significant road trips.The funny thing is is that I have YET to start my summer mini road trips in my Ariya. I will not use my Ariya if the destination is greater than 200-225 miles one way. (I don't like to stop along the way to recharge and wait around for 45 minutes using 350 kW charger).
At a 350kw charger Ariya will only take 1/3 of the available power. Please be considerate and use an available 100kw so other vehicles don't have to wait as long.
I think it goes both ways. The faster I charge using the 350kw, the sooner I can be out of there for the next person to use the EVGO station.Seems like an important consideration if you're unable to take it on significant road trips.
At a 350kw charger Ariya will only take 1/3 of the available power. Please be considerate and use an available 100kw so other vehicles don't have to wait as long.
My data shows the Ariya can charge from 125kw down to 100 kw for over 35 minutes (or 62%). After 62%, it starts to drop under 100kw.
That's still making other 200kw unavailable for 35+ minutes. That's a full charge for another car that can handle it.I think it goes both ways. The faster I charge using the 350kw, the sooner I can be out of there for the next person to use the EVGO station.
My data shows the Ariya can charge from 125kw down to 100 kw for over 35 minutes (or 62%). After 62%, it starts to drop under 100kw.
When you’re doing road trips, you don’t get to pick which location has 100, 200, or 350 kW chargers. You choose whatever is closest to your next destination BEFORE it drops below 20%. Better hope it’s not L2 charging.That's still making other 200kw unavailable for 35+ minutes. That's a full charge for another car that can handle it.
I wish driving an EV is like picking and choosing which gas station to use based purely on price to fill up.
For the Ariya, all three of those options are essentially the same. For other cars 10 minutes @350kw may be enough to reach their final destination or a longer charge stop for a meal break. Doesn't hurt to be considerate since we're in the "slow lane" for charging.When you’re doing road trips, you don’t get to pick which location has 100, 200, or 350 kW chargers. You choose whatever is closest to your next destination BEFORE it drops below 20%. Better hope it’s not L2 charging.
Not specifically on EVGO or Ariya, but related to Electrified America as a charging alternative on long trip and some concerns applicable to all EV's, this video of EA CEO-elect on a coast to coast road trip highlighting both the good and bad:
EA seems to be a good alternative between SoCal and LV and hopefully also good for long trips in and around California, charging in the rain is safe (have done this with my Shamu/Ariya twice), on-going issues with slow & charging station availability.
As much as people complain about it, without EA road trips in the midwest would be practical for non-Tesla cars. EVGo is only in some larger cities - not enough to cover road trips.
EVGO earnings report will be out this Tuesday. It will be interesting to hear what progress they have made and what their future roadmap looks like outside of SoCal
It’s very difficult business for them because they have to support 91 different PHEVs and BEVs out there. On any given moment, anything can go wrong. Whereas, Tesla SC only need to service Tesla owners. This is why they have better reputation and reliability than EVGO and EA. That could change once 100+ EVs use the Tesla SC network.
It’s very difficult business for them because they have to support 91 different PHEVs and BEVs out there. On any given moment, anything can go wrong. Whereas, Tesla SC only need to service Tesla owners. This is why they have better reputation and reliability than EVGO and EA. That could change once 100+ EVs use the Tesla SC network.
EVGO Business Highlights in Q1 ‘23:
- Program with Chevron: EVgo and Chevron entered into a new agreement to offer Chevron locations across the U.S. a turnkey DC fast charging solution with a variety of ownership models, including EVgo eXtend. Through the agreement, Chevron and Texaco branded stations nationwide will have access to industry-leading fast charging equipment and integrated solutions from EVgo through both the Company’s traditional EVgo-owned offering as well as EVgo eXtend. Under the agreement, EVgo will provide hardware, design, and construction of up to 350kW charging at these sites, as well as operations and maintenance, and networking and software solutions.
- EVgo Advantage: Entered into a new agreement with Audible to bring trial memberships to EVgo customers later in 2023, making relevant audiobooks and Audible Original podcasts available to EV drivers while they charge.
- Stall Development: The Company ended the first quarter of 2023 with approximately 3,100 stalls in operation or under construction. EVgo added nearly 220 new DC fast charging stalls to its network during the quarter.
- Active Engineering and Construction (E&C) Stall Development Pipeline: The Company’s pipeline was approximately 3,500 stalls as of the end of the first quarter of 2023.
- EVgo eXtendTM: During the first quarter, the Company continued delivering charging equipment and pre-engineering work for projects under the Pilot Flying J/GM program, and began site mobilization in the second quarter of 2023.
- EVgo Autocharge+: Autocharge+ exceeded 10% of total charging sessions initiated.
- Fleet Partnerships: EVgo won contracts for a second site at MHX, a behind-the-fence, class 8 truck company, and a second site at a national food and beverage company -- both of which include EVgo Optima™, the Company’s proprietary fleet management software.
- PlugShare: Plugshare reached nearly 3.4 million registered users and achieved the milestone of 6.0 million check-ins since inception.
- Public-Private Partnership: EVgo was awarded $7.3 million from the California Energy Commission’s (“CEC”) California Electric Vehicle Infrastructure Project (“CALeVIP”) 2.0 program to deploy more than 100 350kW chargers across 19 locations in disadvantaged and/or low-income census tracts.
I am at an EVGo charging station inside the Chevron gas station.EVGO Business Highlights in Q1 ‘23:
- Program with Chevron: EVgo and Chevron entered into a new agreement to offer Chevron locations across the U.S. a turnkey DC fast charging solution with a variety of ownership models, including EVgo eXtend. Through the agreement, Chevron and Texaco branded stations nationwide will have access to industry-leading fast charging equipment and integrated solutions from EVgo through both the Company’s traditional EVgo-owned offering as well as EVgo eXtend. Under the agreement, EVgo will provide hardware, design, and construction of up to 350kW charging at these sites, as well as operations and maintenance, and networking and software solutions.
- EVgo Advantage: Entered into a new agreement with Audible to bring trial memberships to EVgo customers later in 2023, making relevant audiobooks and Audible Original podcasts available to EV drivers while they charge.
- Stall Development: The Company ended the first quarter of 2023 with approximately 3,100 stalls in operation or under construction. EVgo added nearly 220 new DC fast charging stalls to its network during the quarter.
- Active Engineering and Construction (E&C) Stall Development Pipeline: The Company’s pipeline was approximately 3,500 stalls as of the end of the first quarter of 2023.
- EVgo eXtendTM: During the first quarter, the Company continued delivering charging equipment and pre-engineering work for projects under the Pilot Flying J/GM program, and began site mobilization in the second quarter of 2023.
- EVgo Autocharge+: Autocharge+ exceeded 10% of total charging sessions initiated.
- Fleet Partnerships: EVgo won contracts for a second site at MHX, a behind-the-fence, class 8 truck company, and a second site at a national food and beverage company -- both of which include EVgo Optima™, the Company’s proprietary fleet management software.
- PlugShare: Plugshare reached nearly 3.4 million registered users and achieved the milestone of 6.0 million check-ins since inception.
- Public-Private Partnership: EVgo was awarded $7.3 million from the California Energy Commission’s (“CEC”) California Electric Vehicle Infrastructure Project (“CALeVIP”) 2.0 program to deploy more than 100 350kW chargers across 19 locations in disadvantaged and/or low-income census tracts.
I did not have a good experience. Network connection failed. Had to lock and unlock my doors. After calling the EVGO Customer Service, I was told to make sure my driver door was closed before I can restart.
I had to drop off 2 boxes at the UPS Distribution Ctr. I badly needed to recharge. It's good to see that there is an EVGo station inside Chevron gas station. I kept driving around and around looking for EVGO.
A young gal with a beat up Leaf parked next to me. I offered her $10 for her "Zero Emission" emblem off the back of her Leaf tailgate. She's happy! Lol
What do you do with it? Pix?A young gal with a beat up Leaf parked next to me. I offered her $10 for her "Zero Emission" emblem off the back of her Leaf tailgate. She's happy! Lol
Unfortunately for me, there are only a couple EVgo chargers near me and that's stretching it a bit. There is one nearby at a WholeFoods that has apparently been down for a month +. The other is at a mall 30 minutes away. They're all just 50kw chargers which is pretty pointless unless it's at a hotel. Scanning around the app for all of New England I've only found a few spots with 100kw or higher chargers, none anywhere near where I'd ever go.
I can charge at home no problem but it would be nice to supplement here and there for the first year since it's free.
I can charge at home no problem but it would be nice to supplement here and there for the first year since it's free.
Same scenario for me. I see a few 350kW spots, but not very convenient locations, though the 50kW ones not any better.Unfortunately for me, there are only a couple EVgo chargers near me and that's stretching it a bit. There is one nearby at a WholeFoods that has apparently been down for a month +. The other is at a mall 30 minutes away. They're all just 50kw chargers which is pretty pointless unless it's at a hotel. Scanning around the app for all of New England I've only found a few spots with 100kw or higher chargers, none anywhere near where I'd ever go.
I can charge at home no problem but it would be nice to supplement here and there for the first year since it's free.
For those who frequently charge at home, does your electricity bill go up or fluctuate much? Thx.
Honestly, I haven't noticed much fluctuation from car charging (been a home charger since 2011). When it gets super hot and we run the AC in the house, I see a bit from that. There are only a few EVgo near me, but I'm in the same boat -- they aren't in locations that I usually frequent.Same scenario for me. I see a few 350kW spots, but not very convenient locations, though the 50kW ones not any better.
For those who frequently charge at home, does your electricity bill go up or fluctuate much? Thx.
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