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Press embargo must have just lifted. Reviews are popping up everywhere.


The Ariya's misfortune is to have arrived nearly a year later than planned, on account of the global microchip shortage. So it doesn't really bring much in the way of new tech.

Neither is it conspicuously good value by the simple EV ratio of range versus sticker price. But at least it's well equipped. Especially with the stuff EV buyers don't know they need until they don't have it – a heat pump, heated seats and steering wheel.

Likely there will be people who have been waiting for the Ariya because they trust Nissan as an EV maker, and want a piece of the Leaf's unimpeachable reliability.

We're now at the point where there's plenty of choice in electric crossovers, and it becomes a design and styling play. If you like the look of the Nissan, and especially its interior, go right ahead.
 

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If you want to do some reading here's some articles that have come out as well.

Car and Driver


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What I got from all of these (or at least, some of them, as there are a lot of reviews that just came out and I haven't read/viewed them all):

Exterior: Very similar in size to other small SUV electric models, and attractively done.
Interior: Generally VERY positive reviews of nearly all aspects of the interior. Especially notable: The touch-sensitive buttons in the dash and console, moveable console, responsive touchscreen, additional storage drawer, Alcantera on the dash, rear-seat legroom, headroom, and comfort, with a usable center seat area. A few noted some negatives, such as having to use the main touchscreen to turn on the seat warmers rather than having a dedicated button, and that a hard turn could cause things on the passenger floor to get thrown over to the driver's side due to the flat, open floor.
Fit and Finish: Some comments that it's above average for Nissan.
Driving: Not especially powerful (single motor version) but well mannered, controlled, and weighted. In particular most noted the very good regen/braking, with no discernible change point between the two. Negatives noted include very little difference between the drive modes - e.g. Sport isn't significantly sportier, Economy doesn't have a significant effect on range.
Features: Good, with many standard features at all trim levels, like the touchscreens, heat pump and OTA updates.
Range: Average.
Price: Okay for the features and interior appointments, high for the range.
 

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One can hope, but between Audi/VW going the same way and based on what some reviewers said about the ride being firmer than they expected (that's why I'm looking at selling my mach e because I don't like the ride and there's nothing available yet to fix it) I've lost my desire for this vehicle. It's a shame because I really hoped this would be the one, but I'm looking at the Cadillac Lyriq now.
 

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One can hope, but between Audi/VW going the same way and based on what some reviewers said about the ride being firmer than they expected (that's why I'm looking at selling my mach e because I don't like the ride and there's nothing available yet to fix it) I've lost my desire for this vehicle. It's a shame because I really hoped this would be the one, but I'm looking at the Cadillac Lyriq now.
The Lyric is pretty big, almost as long as the Model S, but it's wheelbase is even longer. That should make for a smooth ride, in addition to the variable dampers they use.
 

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That's exactly what I'm hoping, especially because it's in the luxury segment. It's just a very intriguing proposition now that they are opening the order banks up again.
 

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From the articles I learned that the e-pedal doesn't truly bring the car to a stop, which is a deal breaker for me.
I'm very disappointed in that as well. The full stop e-pedal in my Leaf+ is one of the things I like best. I called Nissan Shopper Assistance at 800 647-7263 and said that I had an order placed for the Ariya but that I was considering cancelling it if the American version didn't have full stop e-pedal. I also said that I was possibly willing to pay something extra for it via a firmware update as a last resort if that was available.I also said that in forums and reviews that was the most common complaint. The person I talked to pronounced it AREeea.
 

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From the articles I learned that the e-pedal doesn't truly bring the car to a stop, which is a deal breaker for me.
This is a deal breaker for me too. I test drove the Volkswagen ID.4 after seeing how beautiful it was and hated the drive primarily because of the lack of one-pedal driving. I have not yet cancelled my Ariya preorder since I am waiting to see what the final production vehicles do, but I don't see the logic in this change.

If somebody does not like the dynamics of driving an electric car they need only turn off e-Pedal and it will behave exactly like a gas-powered vehicle with an internal combustion engine.

Turning it on should make it behave authentically electric. An electric motor should not idle forward unless voltage is applied with the accelerator. That would be like making a car with a manual transmission idle forward when it is not in gear. The car should be authentic to what it is not some imitation ICE vehicle that happens to use electrons instead of gasoline.

The e-Pedal should be a 3-toggle switch going from Off -> ePedal Step -> ePedal (no creep)

I've already put in orders for the EV6 and Mach-E to see which comes first. I will cancel those orders if Nissan confirms in a press-release that TRUE one-pedal driving is coming to the Ariya.

As a side note.... anybody remember this marketing hype on e-Pedal?

Press Release about stopping on hills: Simple things can be amazing


In that video when he says "Oh great... traffic! e-Pedal to the rescue!" -- they can change that to "Oh great... traffic! e-Pedal won't help."
 

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This is a deal breaker for me too. I test drove the Volkswagen ID.4 after seeing how beautiful it was and hated the drive primarily because of the lack of one-pedal driving. I have not yet cancelled my Ariya preorder since I am waiting to see what the final production vehicles do, but I don't see the logic in this change.

If somebody does not like the dynamics of driving an electric car they need only turn off e-Pedal and it will behave exactly like a gas-powered vehicle with an internal combustion engine.

Turning it on should make it behave authentically electric. An electric motor should not idle forward unless voltage is applied with the accelerator. That would be like making a car with a manual transmission idle forward when it is not in gear. The car should be authentic to what it is not some imitation ICE vehicle that happens to use electrons instead of gasoline.

The e-Pedal should be a 3-toggle switch going from Off -> ePedal Step -> ePedal (no creep)

I've already put in orders for the EV6 and Mach-E to see which comes first. I will cancel those orders if Nissan confirms in a press-release that TRUE one-pedal driving is coming to the Ariya.

As a side note.... anybody remember this marketing hype on e-Pedal?

Press Release about stopping on hills: Simple things can be amazing


In that video when he says "Oh great... traffic! e-Pedal to the rescue!" -- they can change that to "Oh great... traffic! e-Pedal won't help."
I canceled my order and plan to order a Cadillac Lyriq when they reopen the order banks in May. Going to be selling/trading in my Mach E.
 

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How did you like the Mach-E? Which one did you have? I could only order the Select or GT, but the GT was outside of my budget.
It's a good car but I don't like the suspension. It's way too stiff and bouncy for my taste and there are others who aren't impressed with the suspension as well (and there are still no aftermarket options to fix it). I have the premium rwd standard range model. Figured the Ariya might have a nicer ride and I liked the interior better, but then the reviews didn't impress me. Found out the lyriq was reopening orders and figured that would be the perfect option.
 

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It's a good car but I don't like the suspension. It's way too stiff and bouncy for my taste and there are others who aren't impressed with the suspension as well (and there are still no aftermarket options to fix it). I have the premium rwd standard range model. Figured the Ariya might have a nicer ride and I liked the interior better, but then the reviews didn't impress me. Found out the lyriq was reopening orders and figured that would be the perfect option.
While I don't mind the Mach-E suspension (also had a Prem RWD SR before)... the Ioniq 5 and EV6 have noticeably better suspension. Too bad the Ariya sounds like it will have a suspension like the Mach-E/Model Y and not like the ID.4/Ioniq5/EV6.
 
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