I completely understand about the markup especially on the top trim. I might be willing to deal with a small one since I'm doing the Evolve+ and even with a couple thousand dollar markup the price would be cheaper than an extended range Mach E Premium. If I can trade or sell my standard range Mach E premium for a good price like many have been able to do so far then a small markup probably won't hurt me too bad. I really can't stand the suspension of the Mach E and think the Ariya is what I am really looking for in terms of comfort and refinement/looks, but we will see. If the aftermarket finally comes out with some options to tweak the Mach E's suspension I would be willing to wait longer for other EV options to come out in the next few years if the mark up is too high on the Ariya. So far there is nothing else I really like in this similar price range (at least with enough info out yet to even contemplate).Thanks Cnote i may call some dealers here Portland and Seattle to see if i get a similar story. We wont know for sure until we are doing the deal, but $1500-$2000 markup will not work for me. The AWD version already is too expensive and already has a marginal value proposition given its 264mile EPA range estimate. But i was willing to go with Nissan only because i had a good experience with the Leaf. Reality for Nissan is that there are several good alternatives now, and there will be several more by the time the AWD ships (which i fully expect wont be until 2023). None of us are going to be very happy about what im sure will be a dreadful depreciation curve (compared to a gas equivalent). I personally have no problem waiting a few more years if we still cant get EV's at or below MSRP by 2023.