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Called Nissan rep this morning he said Ariya USA cars are being built now in Japan. He was also not able to say how long to Ship to USA. He said the dealer and us will be notified soon as possible. He said FWD will be delivered first. It makes you wonder how many AWD were ordered because this could move your delivery date even though you have a low number?Also received Verification email on my contract which I signed which shows some communication with Nissan has started. Remaining Hopeful for Late Oct/Nov.
 

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Called Nissan rep this morning he said Ariya USA cars are being built now in Japan. He was also not able to say how long to Ship to USA. He said the dealer and us will be notified soon as possible. He said FWD will be delivered first. It makes you wonder how many AWD were ordered because this could move your delivery date even though you have a low number?Also received Verification email on my contract which I signed which shows some communication with Nissan has started. Remaining Hopeful for Late Oct/Nov.
If Nissan was building the Ariya in August for the USA market as the Nissan Rep. you spoke with had indicated, it’s entirely possible that the first shipments heading our way may actually be earmarked for dealerships to use as their test drive vehicles. Just a guess but it seems feasible that Nissan may elect to apply the same rollout formula for the Ariya that they refined several years ago during the Leaf launch. The following is an overview of my memory of our Leaf reservation/buying experience:
*Each reservation holder was eventually contacted by their designated dealership to make an appointment to meet and discuss options such as the desired color, floor mats, mud flaps, and yes even the quick charge port was an option back then. Most importantly as a reservation holder we were able to take a Leaf for a test drive during our initial meeting at the dealership. (Our dealer allotted approximately 45 minutes for my wife and I to test drive the one and only Leaf they had on their lot to be used as a test vehicle. )
After a test drive and as long as the reservation holder still wanted to proceed with the purchase, (as we did) a dealer contract was developed listing all of our options we desired. Then as a reservation holder we were officially converted to a “purchaser “ once we paid a larger deposit that was determined and spelled out in the new purchasers agreement contract.
Note the the VIN number could not be provided at this time since this new purchasers agreement contract was merely an order that was then being rolled into Nissan’s production queue. Once that stage was complete our dealer said we should expect to hear from them in about 2 1/2 to 3 months once our vehicle had been delivered. However in our case I received an unexpected call from the dealer about 3-4 weeks after my order. They had called to let me know that our vehicle was scheduled for production soon and there was still time to add a new winter option (if we wanted it) as this option just became available for a heated steering wheel and heated seats. Fortunately the timing of our vehicle order was late enough in Nissan‘s 2011 production year to allow us to add this package.
Overall our Leaf buying experience was positive throughout the entire process from being converted from a reservation holder to a purchaser and new owner.
The only real unforeseen delay in delivery of our Leaf was the Tsunami event of 2011. Since our Leaf was being assembled less than 100 miles from the Fukushima Nuclear plant, our Leaf ended up being delayed for about 3 months after assembly. ie The government authorities required that our Leaf had to be tested for any traces of radioactivity before it was allowed to be shipped. However the long term advantage to our car having this exposure is it always been easy to spot our Leaf in the parking lot - especially at night………that constant glow. LOL

Lastly, if Nissan does apply the Leaf purchase formula I described to that of the Ariya reservation/buying experience, then it would seem to me that anyone ordering a FWD Ariya should feel fortunate if they are actually able to take delivery before Christmas. However that timeline would require that your dealer contacts you and takes your order at least by mid -October (at the very latest).
 

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If Nissan was building the Ariya in August for the USA market as the Nissan Rep. you spoke with had indicated, it’s entirely possible that the first shipments heading our way may actually be earmarked for dealerships to use as their test drive vehicles. Just a guess but it seems feasible that Nissan may elect to apply the same rollout formula for the Ariya that they refined several years ago during the Leaf launch. The following is an overview of my memory of our Leaf reservation/buying experience:
*Each reservation holder was eventually contacted by their designated dealership to make an appointment to meet and discuss options such as the desired color, floor mats, mud flaps, and yes even the quick charge port was an option back then. Most importantly as a reservation holder we were able to take a Leaf for a test drive during our initial meeting at the dealership. (Our dealer allotted approximately 45 minutes for my wife and I to test drive the one and only Leaf they had on their lot to be used as a test vehicle. )
After a test drive and as long as the reservation holder still wanted to proceed with the purchase, (as we did) a dealer contract was developed listing all of our options we desired. Then as a reservation holder we were officially converted to a “purchaser “ once we paid a larger deposit that was determined and spelled out in the new purchasers agreement contract.
Note the the VIN number could not be provided at this time since this new purchasers agreement contract was merely an order that was then being rolled into Nissan’s production queue. Once that stage was complete our dealer said we should expect to hear from them in about 2 1/2 to 3 months once our vehicle had been delivered. However in our case I received an unexpected call from the dealer about 3-4 weeks after my order. They had called to let me know that our vehicle was scheduled for production soon and there was still time to add a new winter option (if we wanted it) as this option just became available for a heated steering wheel and heated seats. Fortunately the timing of our vehicle order was late enough in Nissan‘s 2011 production year to allow us to add this package.
Overall our Leaf buying experience was positive throughout the entire process from being converted from a reservation holder to a purchaser and new owner.
The only real unforeseen delay in delivery of our Leaf was the Tsunami event of 2011. Since our Leaf was being assembled less than 100 miles from the Fukushima Nuclear plant, our Leaf ended up being delayed for about 3 months after assembly. ie The government authorities required that our Leaf had to be tested for any traces of radioactivity before it was allowed to be shipped. However the long term advantage to our car having this exposure is it always been easy to spot our Leaf in the parking lot - especially at night………that constant glow. LOL

Lastly, if Nissan does apply the Leaf purchase formula I described to that of the Ariya reservation/buying experience, then it would seem to me that anyone ordering a FWD Ariya should feel fortunate if they are actually able to take delivery before Christmas. However that timeline would require that your dealer contacts you and takes your order at least by mid -October (at the very latest).
I forgot to share one other experience we had during our Leaf buying journey. The Leaf dealer purchase agreement had a clause allowing the buyer to back out of the contract right up until the day the car was to be delivered. When /if that event occurred, the dealer referred to the car as an “orphan”. My wife and I were actually offered an “orphaned” Leaf about 2 months before our car was scheduled for delivery. However we declined their offer since that vehicle wasn’t our color of choice and that Leaf had not been fitted with the winter package that included the heated steering wheel and seats that we wanted. So it’s likely there could be that possibility again for reservation holders in this process.
 

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I forgot to share one other experience we had during our Leaf buying journey. The Leaf dealer purchase agreement had a clause allowing the buyer to back out of the contract right up until the day the car was to be delivered. When /if that event occurred, the dealer referred to the car as an “orphan”. My wife and I were actually offered an “orphaned” Leaf about 2 months before our car was scheduled for delivery. However we declined their offer since that vehicle wasn’t our color of choice and that Leaf had not been fitted with the winter package that included the heated steering wheel and seats that we wanted. So it’s likely there could be that possibility again for reservation holders in this process.
If Nissan roll out the delivery of the Ariya that way. I'm out. I ordered what I wanted. I took a test drive. I don't want to deal with ordering AGAIN! I'll go get an Ioniq 5 or an EV 6. Lastly. I f they roll it out this way, and I don't think they will. It will be a disaster of a rollout.
 

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If Nissan roll out the delivery of the Ariya that way. I'm out. I ordered what I wanted. I took a test drive. I don't want to deal with ordering AGAIN! I'll go get an Ioniq 5 or an EV 6. Lastly. I f they roll it out this way, and I don't think they will. It will be a disaster of a rollout.
Let me add on here. I have seen nothing from any of the other countries it has rollout in already say anything about reordering the car.
 

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Let me add on here. I have seen nothing from any of the other countries it has rollout in already say anything about reordering the car.
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I like your thoughts here better than mine. However at this point in time it’s hard to understand how step 2 found in the reservation process to “confirm your selection for the dealer to place an order for your new Ariya“ would play out in your scenario. Unfortunately I have not heard that any USA reservation holders to date that have made it beyond step 1 . So time will tell how we all end up negotiating step #2 with our respective dealerships.
 

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View attachment 666 I like your thoughts here better than mine. However at this point in time it’s hard to understand how step 2 found in the reservation process to “confirm your selection for the dealer to place an order for your new Ariya“ would play out in your scenario. Unfortunately I have not heard that any USA reservation holders to date that have made it beyond step 1 . So time will tell how we all end up negotiating step #2 with our respective dealerships.
I hate it. I hate auto dealers. I want to deal with them as little as possible. I hate giving them money. I don't trust them to do anything without a fight and trying as hard as possible to screw people over. I have agreed to a price directly with Nissan and I expect that price tone honored.
 

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I hate it. I hate auto dealers. I want to deal with them as little as possible. I hate giving them money. I don't trust them to do anything without a fight and trying as hard as possible to screw people over. I have agreed to a price directly with Nissan and I expect that price tone honored.
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Did the ride and drive event you attended happen to be in Tacoma last July? If so I get the sense that maybe you don’t trust the Northwest dealer you currently have listed in your Ariya portal with Nissan? So unless your current designated dealer has contacted you to place your order as described in ”step 2” , it‘s really not too late to consider switching your designated dealer to Puyallup Nissan. They are one of the few Nissan dealers in the NW these days that refuse to jack up the MSRP price by tacking on a “market adjustment fee“ - second sticker. If it means anything Puyallup Nissan is the largest Nissan dealership in Washington state- so their service department is top notch. I’ve dealt with Jimmy Shinyeda (253-380-8859) and I’m certain he would be happy to assist you with the dealership sales portion of your Ariya transaction. He has been with them for years and you will find he is super laid back and won‘t do you wrong.
 

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Called Nissan rep this morning he said Ariya USA cars are being built now in Japan. He was also not able to say how long to Ship to USA. He said the dealer and us will be notified soon as possible. He said FWD will be delivered first. It makes you wonder how many AWD were ordered because this could move your delivery date even though you have a low number?Also received Verification email on my contract which I signed which shows some communication with Nissan has started. Remaining Hopeful for Late Oct/Nov.
When I went to test drive a few Arita’s at an event back in July , couple of the guys were saying about 6 or 7k Arita’s were out on a huge ship just sitting off the coast of California , been there for months , they had to spend a crazy amount to jet the few they had there in Edison NJ .. yup his exact words fo me were “you know where your car is ? It’s sitting on a ship off California” .. there’s hundreds of ships all sitting out there , can’t get into the ports bc they’re all full , half the trucking companies are gone and not enough machinery to unload the ships in port now .. they’re all loaded with all kinds of products, cost of diesel has delayed shipping of just about everything from Japan and many other countries . This guy was dead serious , said they can’t even get to these ships , they’re all just out there
 

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I find that story unbelievable. A car carrier can hold up to 8k vehicles. Extremely doubtful every one of them would be an Ariya. Plus it’s around $150k per day to operate a cargo ship. The shipping company isn’t gonna let an auto ship sit outside port for “months”.
 

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When I went to test drive a few Arita’s at an event back in July , couple of the guys were saying about 6 or 7k Arita’s were out on a huge ship just sitting off the coast of California , been there for months , they had to spend a crazy amount to jet the few they had there in Edison NJ .. yup his exact words fo me were “you know where your car is ? It’s sitting on a ship off California” .. there’s hundreds of ships all sitting out there , can’t get into the ports bc they’re all full , half the trucking companies are gone and not enough machinery to unload the ships in port now .. they’re all loaded with all kinds of products, cost of diesel has delayed shipping of just about everything from Japan and many other countries . This guy was dead serious , said they can’t even get to these ships , they’re all just out there
Whomever made that statement is full of it. When (if) your car starts production, it will be assigned a VIN and a the dealer will get an update. So this is ultimate nonsense.

Also, the Nissan rep is full of it (probably a completely clueless guy hired just because there is nobody competent left in the labor market). So far the only deliveries to customers are in Japan and UK. It seems that they are now building only right side drives.
 

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When I went to test drive a few Arita’s at an event back in July , couple of the guys were saying about 6 or 7k Arita’s were out on a huge ship just sitting off the coast of California , been there for months , they had to spend a crazy amount to jet the few they had there in Edison NJ .. yup his exact words fo me were “you know where your car is ? It’s sitting on a ship off California” .. there’s hundreds of ships all sitting out there , can’t get into the ports bc they’re all full , half the trucking companies are gone and not enough machinery to unload the ships in port now .. they’re all loaded with all kinds of products, cost of diesel has delayed shipping of just about everything from Japan and many other countries . This guy was dead serious , said they can’t even get to these ships , they’re all just out there
I find it a bit hard to believe that many Ariya's are stuck on a ship when deliveries have started in other markets and not in the US yet. There may be some demo cars or prototypes but I can't see there being that many customer vehicles on one ship.
 

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When I went to test drive a few Arita’s at an event back in July , couple of the guys were saying about 6 or 7k Arita’s were out on a huge ship just sitting off the coast of California , been there for months , they had to spend a crazy amount to jet the few they had there in Edison NJ .. yup his exact words fo me were “you know where your car is ? It’s sitting on a ship off California” .. there’s hundreds of ships all sitting out there , can’t get into the ports bc they’re all full , half the trucking companies are gone and not enough machinery to unload the ships in port now .. they’re all loaded with all kinds of products, cost of diesel has delayed shipping of just about everything from Japan and many other countries . This guy was dead serious , said they can’t even get to these ships , they’re all just out there
Well I wish I was recording it bc that is what the rep said , said that’s why they only had 2 demo ariyas there , the others were on these cargo ships .. and that’s where mine is he said .. idk I kinda wouldn’t find it unbelievable nowadays to be honest .. who knows but that’s what he honestly said .. maybe not that many or maybe he was exaggerating idk , but there are for sure lots of ships that have to sit out off shore waiting there turn to enter port , that is true , losing a lot of money for sure.. And I’m sure these corporations/companies aren’t going to admit that but I know it definitely happens with lots of machinery, electronics, sneakers, clothes etc .. so idk … all I know is I better have this damn car before December or I’m bailing ..
 

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Called Nissan rep this morning he said Ariya USA cars are being built now in Japan. He was also not able to say how long to Ship to USA. He said the dealer and us will be notified soon as possible. He said FWD will be delivered first. It makes you wonder how many AWD were ordered because this could move your delivery date even though you have a low number?Also received Verification email on my contract which I signed which shows some communication with Nissan has started. Remaining Hopeful for Late Oct/Nov.
Looked at CNBC Report today on Los Angeles Shipping ports backlog. During Covid 109 ships backlogged waiting ,as of 7/22/22 there are now 20 backed up and numbers improving daily.It says they are breaking records unloading right now. which is good news. I also thought someone mentioned when a car is built with vehicle I.D that is when dealers can start tracking. My dealers checks frequently still no updates.
 

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If they were backed up only 20 ships on 7/22/22 the numbers should have dropped even further by now 9/7/22 which is a positive note?
I agree that this story is exactly that, as story. Nissan would have assigned respective dealers with VIN numbers prior to each Ariya being loaded on a ship. To date as far as I know not a single Nationwide Nissan dealer has leaked to the public that they actually have designated Ariya’s with VIN numbers heading this way.
 

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I hate it. I hate auto dealers. I want to deal with them as little as possible. I hate giving them money. I don't trust them to do anything without a fight and trying as hard as possible to screw people over. I have agreed to a price directly with Nissan and I expect that price tone honored.
I've been trying to buy a Leaf and all the dealerships around me that have stock have marked them up $3-5k. Scum.
 
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