We have a 2014 Evolve+ FWD that we are leasing. Much has to also do with driving habits and style. Rapid acceleration drops the calculated range. With that being said, our estimated is rated at 289, however, we have been averaging over 300. The highest calculation that we got was 330 at 98% charge. We live in California where the weather is pretty constant, which is also a factor. Plus we pretty much take advantage of e-petal, ECO mode, and the B mode for higher regenerative braking when we can. Even in the ECO mode the car has more get up and go than the typical ICE vehicle. We are very happy with this vehicle. I'm not sure if the 2023s are having the same results, but I can testify that in our circumstances, we are getting over double the range of the 2023 LEAF S that we returned on lease for the 2024 Ariya Evolve+ FWD (not the eForce). One thing that we did notice, also on the LEAF, is that when we charge Level 2 at home we get better range than at fast chargers. I'm not sure why that matters, but in our case it does.

 

I hit over 400 miles couple times - I have the AWD.

 

We have a Venture+, which is EPA rated at 304 miles, but during the late spring when temperatures were ideal the GOM registered as high as 350. With the recent heat wave requiring full-time A/C, we're back down to about 325. (Last winter it was usually in the 240-250 range.) We're in central NH (charger wasteland, unfortunately), with mostly semi-rural 45-55 mph driving. I use ECO, e-Step, and B, with a fair bit of cruise control.

 

Every EV owner should be told from the beginning, that the range estimate doesn't mean much of anything, and that if its rate goes up or down, that means even less.

It just reflects your recent driving, and is a vague guess based on hidden numbers.

Again, it doesn't mean much of anything, and is just a curiosity.

For example, I have an Evolve+ FWD too. I don't think my estimated range has EVER shown 300 miles or higher. This makes no difference, and means almost nothing.

I have a theory about it, though: The Ariya we wanted was 4 hours away, so they drove it to our local dealer, which involves going through mountains (above average consumption). We live on a fairly significant hill, which takes power to go up. This skews the guess-o-meter's calculations down.

It does NOT reflect our actual range, nor our actual efficiency. When we go on a typical day trip on the highway, we tend to get 3.1 mi / kWh. When we are diving around town, we tend to get well over 4. That would indicate a "range" of something like 270 to 350+ miles, depending on how/where we drive. The range estimate shown reflects that we live on a hill, and that sometimes we give it a burst of acceleration. I think the guess-o-meter is programmed to err on the side of caution, so it looks at your peak consumption rates, and weighs that more than it actually happens.

 

That Guess-o-Meter number keeps you inline for driving safely or aggressively (I do, sometimes) or whatever your choice may be.. Just pay attention to the SoC, and when to charge so it doesn't go low and it could affect the 12V battery, or re-starting the car the next time. When you drive an ICE car, do any of you really concern about the mpg? or just look at the Fuel gauge from F to E? My analogy, for EV, maybe each of us represents a different car with different mpg: one could be "Camry" for good mpg, one could be "Jeep", one could be "Camaro", etc...

 

My Evolve+ AWD GOM is topping to 320+ miles pretty regularly now that summer heat has kicked up.

 

I don't look at the GOM for anything except for when I need to charge. I pay attention to the miles per kwh. As long as I'm over 5 for around town and upper 3's to 4 for highway, I'm happy.

 

I had the leaf plus also...mostly charged at home...leaf was great...but love the ariya.

 

Living in an area that has many hills, our Evolve+ gets 280+ on the GOM. Wife likes to drive 75 MPH on the freeway so that lowers the efficiency. LOL Still better than our Tesla M3. This is our 2nd month after EVgo where we now charge exclusively on L2 at home. I have seen some postings on Reddit claims of better efficiency from L2 charging. Not to worried about it as our home solar covers 80% of the charging during sunlight hours.

 

Solar- nice...I drive in standard mode and real easy on the gas......if I have some trips that involve 70mph...I get closer to 350 miles.
I did get the car in the winter then it was 320miles tops...thanks for the reply and info.
Keith ( new jersey )

 

i have the Ariya premiere. It’s been about 15 months I’ve had my car . I’ve always showed over 300 miles on a full charge . Did not baby on the freeway drive normal . Have on standard with e-step on most the time but not always . Charged during my lunch break for about 40 min 2 to 3 times a week . Now all of a sudden I just noticed it go from over 300 to 254 miles per kw today . I’m not happy . Contacting the dealership tomorrow.
is this normal ? I don’t think that given everyone is going to drive different , in different circumstances and so for .. how are we seeing the same issue . I feel it’s a car problem and not a driver issue . People can recommend different driving in it seems like it’s been done with same out come .
Anyone get an answer for this that dealt with a programming or car issue ?

 

i have the Ariya premiere. It’s been about 15 months I’ve had my car . I’ve always showed over 300 miles on a full charge . Did not baby on the freeway drive normal . Have on standard with e-step on most the time but not always . Charged during my lunch break for about 40 min 2 to 3 times a week . Now all of a sudden I just noticed it go from over 300 to 254 miles per kw today . I’m not happy . Contacting the dealership tomorrow.
is this normal ? I don’t think that given everyone is going to drive different , in different circumstances and so for .. how are we seeing the same issue . I feel it’s a car problem and not a driver issue . People can recommend different driving in it seems like it’s been done with same out come .
Anyone get an answer for this that dealt with a programming or car issue ?

It's normal but meaningless. The range estimate is just an estimate. At 15 months, it almost certainly does not reflect any change in your car's battery capacity, or efficiency. There is another display you can pull up on the dashboard that will show you your battery capacity - it goes from 0 to 1, and I expect yours will show all the way over at 1, for no measurable battery capacity loss.

The range estimate is based on some unknown calculation that has to do with your driving history. Sometimes it goes down a bunch, and that often causes people to make upset posts about "losing miles", but nothing is actually changing except the estimate.

 

We had a cold day today in the mid 60s. Finished charging at home on a L2 with 272 at 95% SOC. Last week it was in the mid 80s and it was over 315 estimate range. Temperature will affect the GOM. My Evolve FWD is rated at 289 and even then actual mileage differs from the estimate. The same is true with our Tesla M3 SR. Its a 2021 miles and we have lost 10-15 miles at the 80% which is now 195 range. Its around 165 actual miles. Whether its because of a heavy foot or hills, its all a guess. Our ICE, Toyota Sienna, has an estimate of 21 mpg. I'll be lucky to get 16 mpg.

Give it a few more charges and see how it turns out. There was another post of someone with a premiere that got lower than expected range. Do you have the the 4 wheel drive trim?

 

I drove 60 miles to Marin County and back and used 30% battery. That seems like a lot. Stuck in some traffic but not that bad, maybe 10’ delay. I don’t understand all the jargon so have no idea yet about the way to figure mileage. I just charge it in the garage every Sunday night from9pm-6am and that gets it up to about 90%, then Im good for the week. have no idea about long trips yet.

 

What speed? If you were going 80 or so, I could see that. At 75 I'll generally get 2.4 m/kWh in decent weather. Rain, mountains, wind, temperature also affect the efficiency, but speed is the most likely culprit.

 

Which model of Ariya do you have?

I have the Evolve+ AWD and I roughly estimate for most warm weather driving that I get roughly 3 miles per percent, so for a 60 mile trip, I'd think closer to 20-22% than 30%, but if you don't have the + sized battery, the math would be quite different.

I just did a 132 mile trip yesterday in a mix of 60-70mph highway driving with some very heavy traffic mixed in. Took about 3 hours to do that drive. It was in the mid 60s, so neither the A/C or heat had to work very hard.

That 132 mile trip burned about 48% battery, a bit worse than the 44% my 3 miles per percent rule of thumb estimate would anticipate.

The MyNissan app says for that trip I had average energy economy of 3.4mi/kWh and consumed 39.00 kWh.

 

I have a Premiere with 87kw battery. Getting about 2miles per 1%.

 

Premiere only has FWD. I drive fast. Can’t stand 55 mph if nothing is in front of me. And even I did 75 mph, others still passed me on toll road. We still have low 90 F weather so A/C was going with 5 ppl in the car. By myself I open windows, but those teens will start bickering when get in car. Houston is flat so regen is at minimum.

 

I have 2 Arita’s a 23 Premier and a 24 Platinum+ force. Both consistently display accurate estimates of range at 100%. Actual range depends on the weight of your right foot, the temperature, use of AC or HEAT. My more than 10 year use of the Leaf gave me a good idea of how to drive for efficiency and performance when needed. I’ll never go back to gasoline in my car. With all due respect please reflect on your driving for performance vs. driving to get there.

 

Great advice! 👍🏾

 

2023 engage fwd just charged to 100% and I have 274 highest ever is 287

 

I am having this exact issue from day 1. However, my Ariya has never shown more than 210. That 62 less miles is very costly to me, as I live in the mountains and 1 nothing is a short drive and 2 there is only 1 fast charger within 50 miles of me. Oh, mine is a 2024 but same model and specs. Did you ever get a resolution? Plus I’ve only driven in ECO mode Love the car besides that.

 

Pretty much zero individual specific Ariyas "get" different miles from other Ariyas of the same type in the same conditions driven in the same way.

The amount shown on the screen is an estimate, a guess by the "guess-o-meter" based on some unknown formula using your recent-ish driving history.

What makes a big difference in how much power you use when you drive, are things that exist, like slopes, weather, and how hard the drive presses the pedals, and how often they slow the car down or stop it, speed over about 50 mph causing more and more wind resistance, and what's inside the car making the total weight increase.

In your case, it's probably mainly the mountains. Mountains do tend to reduce the actual miles per kWh from 3+ to around 2 or even less when going up steep slopes.

 

What gives me the best economy is using eco mode in standard D with the cruise control on. Going down hill the regen kicks in to slow the vehicle. When coming to a stop, I tap the brakes and then immediately shift into B mode. On Thanksgiving my wife and I drove to our Son's house. 110 miles round trip. About 80% highway, we averaged 4.2 mkw. It was nasty weather so I kept the highway speed to 60 mph.
Mike

 

I live atop a significant hill, and sometimes watch and take pictures of the "Energy Usage" graph in that period, and it does not appear to me that having the car in B mode regens any more than when doing the same thing at the same speed with eStep on.

Similar when doing the rest of my drive into town (which also has a mostly-downhill slope, not as steep but about 7 miles): I get as good or better results (about 12 mi / kWh) driving it in eStep/Standard, compared to eStep/Eco, or compared to B mode.

 

I'll have to give that a try.
Thanks
Mike

 

Hix. It was fun talking with that person. I’d like to see his bness blooming

Buying an EV/ICE isn't rocket science or one of life's big decision.

it’s not “rocket” but still science. All for SCIENCE @nilahiii

 

When I bought my it was 230 Miles at the dealership I have a Engage. Now 100% battery gives me 170 Max if I have luck. That is ridiculous for me that's part of a strategy to sell the car and they know that. This is horrible man!!!!!

 

No, your driving style and also the weather could be affecting your GOM range. It's not the car or the dealership.

 

Driving an EV requires some style adjustments comparing to gas car. may not need to accelerate at first but do slowing down to maximize regen. I’m very impatient like to take off fast and drive fast but I have to adjust my driving a bit if I want to stretch out the range. Your car has the smaller battery so if you make some style change the GoM will get better. When the weather is warmer that number will improve. Right now it’s rainy 67F, my SoC is 63% and GoM is 232.

 

And you're in Texas💀...🤣

 

I didn’t pick to live in TX. Just too lazy to move. Besides Houston has lots of good food and I live to eat, not eat to live.

 

Now that's how to live!😊 I enjoy good food as well.

 

Tip: ( Nissan Ariya Platinum , cold Chicago )
We did 20 miles with 10F outside and battery heat was On. Usage was 11%.
On a way back same 20 miles distance and battery heat was Off. Usage was 13%.
Verdict : when cold outside battery heat option can save u some energy , probably around 15%.
We usually don't drive EV cars when temperature drop below 20F but ICE car only.
( another Infinity for winter ) .