The ID.4 is going to be very interesting. VW has a lot invested in the ID lineup but I've read they've had some issues finishing up areas like software.Probably the Ariya. Still waiting for them to show the id.4. But I want over the air updates, power lift gate, some sort of self driving, and leather
The Ioniq 5's design fascinates me. I'm still not sure if I like it or not. It's unique at least I'll give Hyundai that.IONIQ 5
Before the specs came out on those, I was ready to put down a deposit whenever preorders opened on the Ariya but Hyundai seems to have jumped ahead of Nissan technologically. 800 V rather than 400 V based system (charges 3 times faster at DC fast charger that can supply enough KW). 11 KW vs 7.2 home charging (as much as 4 hour difference in charging time, admittedly, rare this would make a difference) - although Ariya offers 22 KW 3 phase 400V charging in Europe but USA/Japan seems to be limited to 7.2). 280 miles on 58 KWh battery/342 with 73 KWh battery vs 224 miles on 65 KWh/310 with 90 KWh battery (WLTP estimates) so the Ioniq appears much more efficient . V2L so I can power my fridge during a power outage. Hyundai's Level 2 assisted driving tech/software is rated above Nissan's ProPilot. We'll have to see how ProPilot 2 and what Hyundai offers in the Ioniq compares.
Ioniq seems like it will be released in Europe/Korea before USA - in the summer? We will have to see what all those youtubers and EV review sites have to say once they get their hands on Ariya/Ioniq. Right now, I would buy the Ioniq 5 or one of it's variants.
We still haven't seen what Subaru/Toyota is coming out with and who/when solid state batteries will be offered.
No heat pump? What? Does that mean no heater in winter?My possible EV's. All are in the running. Possible purchase in late 2021/Early 2022.
Ariya - tech looks to be better than the ID4 (USA).
ID4 - Have a reservation for this one, but no heat pump for US and missing some tech that is available in other countries.
Tesla Model Y - goes the furthest and hopefully quality control issues are corrected by 2022.
Ioniq 5 - We'll see. Hope, size wise, it's bigger than Kona and closer to those above.
Audi Q4 - Looks the best so far, but probably out of my price range, unless I can get one used by 2022.
The ID.4 will have heat - it just won’t be as efficient as a heat pump. It will have heated seats, heated steering wheel, and heated windshield so I’m not convinced the heat pump is worth the small gain in efficiency and added noise.No heat pump? What? Does that mean no heater in winter?
There will be heat in the ID.4. It's just not spread through the car through the heat pump.No heat pump? What? Does that mean no heater in winter?
I wanted to hold out for the Ariya...but I ultimately could not. I liked the promise of the Ariya, but at the end of the day, it was not so much more appealing than the VW ID.4 and the Mustang Mach-E to make the wait worth it. I test drove both the Mach-E and the ID.4. The Mach-E is quick and fast, tech-loaded, and has an aggressive yet refined look. The ID.4 is all about practicality and creature comforts (a car for people who want an EV bit want it to feel like a regular old car with a bit of instant torque). In the end, we opted for an ID.4 First Edition. We took delivery last week. I will miss the Leaf Plus SV we traded in to get it, but so far I have been more than satisfied with the ID.4.I have narrowed my choices down further over time. My list is now down to the ID.4 and the Ariya. I scratched the Model 3 off the list because I don't feel Tesla has enough service centers to make me comfortable I can get reasonably fast turnaround if the car needs to be serviced. I scratched the Mach E because I was not impressed by the leaked initial EPA range estimates for the extended range model and I also am not fond of the tablet screen.
Between the Ariya and ID.4, I am leaning ID.4. Firstly, I believe the ID.4 will arrive sooner (first Quarter 2021) and I am anxious to my purchase completed. I fear the Ariya's roll out would place it in my hands in early 2022. Secondly, I am impressed with Volkswagen's decision to go all in on EVs. They appear to invested in the MEB platform and are rolling out their ID line of cars efficiently. The also are rolling out a broader line of EVs through their interests in Audi, Porsche, Skoda, etc. Whatever is motivating them (e.g., emissions scandal), there is a certain commitment level with the VW Group. The interior space is impressive and they also are throwing in three years of free fast charging at Electrify America charge stations. Finally, the creature comforts I can get for the amount I am willing to spend are pretty extensive on the ID.4 (glass roof w/retractable shade, heated seats, massage seats, kick activated tail-gate, etc. It won't be as sporty a performer as the Ariya, but I am not looking for sporty.
The on only way I will shift back towards the Ariya is if the electronic/infotainment issues that the ID.3 came with have not been resolved in the ID.4 by the time the Ariya becomes available.
I think giving up on the wait and getting something else is going to happen to a lot of us. I think the Ariya, much as I love it, has been something of a vaporware situation. They will eventually release it, but by the time they do, competing
This seems common to all or most EVs. I think they are new enough that "stuff happens"....and the pandemic is not helping. That said I can only wait a few more months...