[NeedEVnow]

I reserved Venture+ last year when reservation opened and my car was ready 2-3 days back. I test drove it today and then declined to buy it.

When I reserved last year, Venture+ was NOT basic trim. I forgot the name of other trims but Venture+ was one level above basic. I can't find details since now more trims are available for 2023 (Engage, Evolve, Premier, ..... not all of those were available in 2022 during reservation).

Drive was good but Venture+ is the very basic trim no.

I cancelled because:
No driver side power seat.
No 360 camera (bird's eye view)
No power button for trunk. It was manual only
No floor mats
No cargo cover above the small ditch
No movable center console

As I said, drive was good and Propilot was good in taking turns on freeway (of course, at least one hand should be on steering).

 

[FolsomCa]

I reserved Venture+ last year when reservation opened and my car was ready 2-3 days back. I test drove it today and then declined to buy it.

When I reserved last year, Venture+ was NOT basic trim. I forgot the name of other trims but Venture+ was one level above basic. I can't find details since now more trims are available for 2023 (Engage, Evolve, Premier, ..... not all of those were available in 2022 during reservation).

Drive was good but Venture+ is the very basic trim no.

I cancelled because:
No driver side power seat.
No 360 camera (bird's eye view)
No power button for trunk. It was manual only
No floor mats
No cargo cover above the small ditch
No movable center console

As I said, drive was good and Propilot was good in taking turns on freeway (of course, at least one hand should be on steering).

Sounds like you should have picked Evolve+, no foot control for trunk but opens with FOB which is easy enough. My sister has a foot control on her nissan Rogue says it is a pain to sometimes trigger. I enjoy my Evolve+ more every day.The trims and cost were clearly spelled out. My top 3 things were Memory seats for 2 drivers since we now share car. A/C -Heat in back for grandkid also works great, 360 view camera works especially good pulling into Garage with warning on surroundings and when to stop. You could always check dealers for Cancelled Reservation. Good Luck!

 

[ab13]

The Venture+ was the base model with the least features, but the biggest range. It was always that way.

 

[PNWariya]

During reservation time, the trim levels available were the Venture+ Evolve+, Premiere, and Platinum+. The Engage/Engage+ and the Empower+ I didn't notice on Nissan's website until after reservations were closed. The Empower trim level seems similar to Premiere, and I think Engage is similar to Evolve

 

[NeedEVnow]

I don't have screenshot of trims available during reservation. My friend and I both reserved Venture+ in Jan/Feb 2022. Both of us are sure that Ventrure+ was one level above the base level AT THE TIME OF RESERVATION.

Even the dealership manager agreed that 2 people cancelled the Venture+ for exactly same reason.

I am pretty sure that power driver seat, power liftgate, birds eye view were all listed at that time in Venture+.

I cancelled because I was expecting all this in the price I was quoted.

If anyone have screenshot of trims/features during reservation, please share.

 

[ab13]

I don't have screenshot of trims available during reservation. My friend and I both reserved Venture+ in Jan/Feb 2022. Both of us are sure that Ventrure+ was one level above the base level AT THE TIME OF RESERVATION.

Even the dealership manager agreed that 2 people cancelled the Venture+ for exactly same reason.

I am pretty sure that power driver seat, power liftgate, birds eye view were all listed at that time in Venture+.

I cancelled because I was expecting all this in the price I was quoted.

If anyone have screenshot of trims/features during reservation, please share.

I screen shot this as the reservation models, all were long range.

 

[PNWariya]

I don't have screenshot of trims available during reservation. My friend and I both reserved Venture+ in Jan/Feb 2022. Both of us are sure that Ventrure+ was one level above the base level AT THE TIME OF RESERVATION.

Even the dealership manager agreed that 2 people cancelled the Venture+ for exactly same reason.

I am pretty sure that power driver seat, power liftgate, birds eye view were all listed at that time in Venture+.

I cancelled because I was expecting all this in the price I was quoted.

If anyone have screenshot of trims/features during reservation, please share.

Yes I thought the difference between Premiere and Platinum was AWD, motion activated lift gate and leather interior, but the list of differences has grown to include the side mirrors with integrated turn signals (also tilt down when in reverse), power tilt/telescoping steering column, memory for the side mirror positions, and a few other things, mostly conveniences, but still... I would have liked those integrated turn signals on the outside mirrors.

 

[EarlyEVadopter]

I don't have screenshot of trims available during reservation. My friend and I both reserved Venture+ in Jan/Feb 2022. Both of us are sure that Ventrure+ was one level above the base level AT THE TIME OF RESERVATION.

Even the dealership manager agreed that 2 people cancelled the Venture+ for exactly same reason.

I am pretty sure that power driver seat, power liftgate, birds eye view were all listed at that time in Venture+.

I cancelled because I was expecting all this in the price I was quoted.

If anyone have screenshot of trims/features during reservation, please share.

Here’s a screen shot of Nissans’s press release for Ariya dated November 16, 2021 when the reservation process opened. As you can see there are only (4) trim options available for reservation to the general public and the features of the Venture + trim have remained unchanged since then. Note that all (4) trims in the reservation process have the large 87KW battery. The Venture + has always been the entry level trim available with the large 87KW battery. That said, the Venture + trim has never offered a power driver seat, power lift gate, or Birds Eye view that it appears you desire. During the reservation process potential buyers had to study all the features of each trim and then decide what features were important to them. The Evolve + trim provided all the features you mention but also required a $3k premium to attain those features.
Now that the reservation process is closed the Engage trim as seen on some dealer lots today is the lowest priced entry level Ariya model. But keep in mind the Engage FWD trim is only available with the small 63 KW battery. However it is strange to many that Nissan chose to equip the entry level less expensive Engage with a power drivers seat with memory while the more expensive Venture + does not have that feature.

 

[Hank]

I reserved Venture+ last year when reservation opened and my car was ready 2-3 days back. I test drove it today and then declined to buy it.

When I reserved last year, Venture+ was NOT basic trim. I forgot the name of other trims but Venture+ was one level above basic. I can't find details since now more trims are available for 2023 (Engage, Evolve, Premier, ..... not all of those were available in 2022 during reservation).

Drive was good but Venture+ is the very basic trim no.

I cancelled because:
No driver side power seat.
No 360 camera (bird's eye view)
No power button for trunk. It was manual only
No floor mats
No cargo cover above the small ditch
No movable center console

As I said, drive was good and Propilot was good in taking turns on freeway (of course, at least one hand should be on steering).

Knowing what I know today after driving for 4 days, I really don’t care for those features you mentioned. I can live without those. However, I love my Evolve+ especially with the panoramic moonroof which is something I use a lot.

So what will you do now? Cancel your order entirely, or upgrade to the Evolve +? If you decide to keep your Venture+ order, I will donate you my carpeted floor mats. Mine already came with rugged rubber floor mats courtesy from Tustin Nissan.

 

[belliott]

I don't have screenshot of trims available during reservation. My friend and I both reserved Venture+ in Jan/Feb 2022. Both of us are sure that Ventrure+ was one level above the base level AT THE TIME OF RESERVATION.

Even the dealership manager agreed that 2 people cancelled the Venture+ for exactly same reason.

I am pretty sure that power driver seat, power liftgate, birds eye view were all listed at that time in Venture+.

I cancelled because I was expecting all this in the price I was quoted.

If anyone have screenshot of trims/features during reservation, please share.

I found a few things in my Ariya folder. These all seem to confirm early on, the Venture+ was the lowest of the four trims offered to us through the Reservation process.

11/18/21 - Motor Trend article - Long-Delayed 2023 Nissan Ariya Now Available to Order With a $500 Deposit
11/21/21 - Reservation Process screen shot from a dealers page
12/9/21 - Grade walk screen showing two lower trims.

 

[NeedEVnow]

Thanks all for the information and screenshot.

My plan is to call Nissan and request trim change from Venture+ to Evolve+.

 

[EarlyEVadopter]

Thanks all for the information and screenshot.

My plan is to call Nissan and request trim change from Venture+ to Evolve+.

Whatever you do don’t cancel your reservation before you get a definitive answer from Nissan if they will allow you to convert your Venture + reservation to Evolve+. As I see it there are two things at stake for you. #1. Once you cancel your reservation you will automatically forfeit your reservation credit of $1240.00. #2. According to Nissan when I explored converting my Evolve + FWD reservation to an Evolve+ AWD trim last September, I was told I would have to cancel my reservation and reorder. (but that was for an AWD trim that still isn’t available ) In that scenario if I chose to cancel my reservation, that cancellation would automatically trigger a potential issue for my EV tax credit eligibility.
Regardless please let us know if Nissan will allow you to change your trim level now that the reservations are closed.

 

[FolsomCa]

Thanks all for the information and screenshot.

My plan is to call Nissan and request trim change from Venture+ to Evolve+.

See if your dealer might have a Evolve+ Cancellation?? There has to be one somewhere, normally I would say Nissan would help but if they do it for you it might open to many request. Good Luck You deserve help since you have waited and still a paying customer.

 

[NeedEVnow]

Nissan told me that I have to talk to dealer to change from Venture+ to Evolve+

Dealer told me that they don't have any Evolve coming up and advised to cancel reservation with Nissan.

 

[ab13]

Nissan told me that I have to talk to dealer to change from Venture+ to Evolve+

Dealer told me that they don't have any Evolve coming up and advised to cancel reservation with Nissan.

I don't think you should cancel, even if you are looking for another car, since you are supposed to get the reservationist discount.

 

[NeedEVnow]

I don't think you should cancel, even if you are looking for another car, since you are supposed to get the reservationist discount.

I am not sure how I can get Evolve+ now even if I keep my reservation. Dealer told me that they don't have Evolve+ coming in near future.
Not sure if I can buy from another dealer with my reservation discount.

 

[PNWariya]

I am not sure how I can get Evolve+ now even if I keep my reservation. Dealer told me that they don't have Evolve+ coming in near future.
Not sure if I can buy from another dealer with my reservation discount.

Perhaps another strategy is to go ahead with Venture reservation, but also research Evolve availability and trade/resell Venture when the time is right.

 

[EarlyEVadopter]

I am not sure how I can get Evolve+ now even if I keep my reservation. Dealer told me that they don't have Evolve+ coming in near future.
Not sure if I can buy from another dealer with my reservation discount.

Seems like you should contact Nissan (since your assigned dealer is of no help now) to ask if you can buy an Evolve + from a different dealer and still apply your reservation credit with a nearby dealer that has an Evolve + for sale ? Where are you located? I know of one Evolve + for sale near Seattle, Wa.

 

[theaba]

I reserved Venture+ last year when reservation opened and my car was ready 2-3 days back. I test drove it today and then declined to buy it.

When I reserved last year, Venture+ was NOT basic trim. I forgot the name of other trims but Venture+ was one level above basic. I can't find details since now more trims are available for 2023 (Engage, Evolve, Premier, ..... not all of those were available in 2022 during reservation).

Drive was good but Venture+ is the very basic trim no.

I cancelled because:
No driver side power seat.
No 360 camera (bird's eye view)
No power button for trunk. It was manual only
No floor mats
No cargo cover above the small ditch
No movable center console

As I said, drive was good and Propilot was good in taking turns on freeway (of course, at least one hand should be on steering).

I reserved Venture+ last year when reservation opened and my car was ready 2-3 days back. I test drove it today and then declined to buy it.

When I reserved last year, Venture+ was NOT basic trim. I forgot the name of other trims but Venture+ was one level above basic. I can't find details since now more trims are available for 2023 (Engage, Evolve, Premier, ..... not all of those were available in 2022 during reservation).

Drive was good but Venture+ is the very basic trim no.

I cancelled because:
No driver side power seat.
No 360 camera (bird's eye view)
No power button for trunk. It was manual only
No floor mats
No cargo cover above the small ditch
No movable center console

As I said, drive was good and Propilot was good in taking turns on freeway (of course, at least one hand should be on steering).

From the above list, I did not notice the lack of any cargo offer when I picked up my Venture+ order. I was very disappointed later that a ~$50k does not come with such an important accessory. I do not miss the other items much. I got Amazon basic floor mats for $60 that fit very well. I use Google map and Apple Car Play instead of native navigation. But I do not understand why the massive fixed center console does not have any usable deep storage space. Accessing the USB ports under it is very awkward.
I charged the car for the first time recently. In a fast charging station, I was able to charge at the rate of 75KWH (why not 150KWH as advertised). Then it gradually dropped to 35KWH after 80% full. The Audi e-tron next to me showed starting 100KWH rate at the beginning.

I reserved Venture+ last year when reservation opened and my car was ready 2-3 days back. I test drove it today and then declined to buy it.

When I reserved last year, Venture+ was NOT basic trim. I forgot the name of other trims but Venture+ was one level above basic. I can't find details since now more trims are available for 2023 (Engage, Evolve, Premier, ..... not all of those were available in 2022 during reservation).

Drive was good but Venture+ is the very basic trim no.

I cancelled because:
No driver side power seat.
No 360 camera (bird's eye view)
No power button for trunk. It was manual only
No floor mats
No cargo cover above the small ditch
No movable center console

As I said, drive was good and Propilot was good in taking turns on freeway (of course, at least one hand should be on steering).

From the above list, I did not notice the lack of any cargo offer when I picked up my Venture+ order. I was very disappointed later that a ~$50k does not come with such an important accessory. I do not miss the other items much. I got Amazon basic floor mats for $60 that fit very well. I use Google map and Apple Car Play instead of native navigation. But I do not understand why the massive fixed center console does not have any usable deep storage space. Accessing the USB ports under it is very awkward.

I charged the car for the first time recently. In a fast charging station, I was able to charge at the rate of 75KWH (why not 150KWH as advertised). Then the charging rate gradually dropped to 35KWH after 80% full. The Audi e-tron next to me showed starting 100KWH charging rate at the beginning.

 

[EarlyEVadopter]

From the above list, I did not notice the lack of any cargo offer when I picked up my Venture+ order. I was very disappointed later that a ~$50k does not come with such an important accessory. I do not miss the other items much. I got Amazon basic floor mats for $60 that fit very well. I use Google map and Apple Car Play instead of native navigation. But I do not understand why the massive fixed center console does not have any usable deep storage space. Accessing the USB ports under it is very awkward.
I charged the car for the first time recently. In a fast charging station, I was able to charge at the rate of 75KWH (why not 150KWH as advertised). Then it gradually dropped to 35KWH after 80% full. The Audi e-tron next to me showed starting 100KWH rate at the beginning.


From the above list, I did not notice the lack of any cargo offer when I picked up my Venture+ order. I was very disappointed later that a ~$50k does not come with such an important accessory. I do not miss the other items much. I got Amazon basic floor mats for $60 that fit very well. I use Google map and Apple Car Play instead of native navigation. But I do not understand why the massive fixed center console does not have any usable deep storage space. Accessing the USB ports under it is very awkward.

I charged the car for the first time recently. In a fast charging station, I was able to charge at the rate of 75KWH (why not 150KWH as advertised). Then the charging rate gradually dropped to 35KWH after 80% full. The Audi e-tron next to me showed starting 100KWH charging rate at the beginning.

I suspect you may not have known that during the colder months you need to get into the preheat setting menu and heat the battery up 30 minutes before attempting to fast charge? The max charge rate Nissan claims is 130KW. However the fastest charging speed anyone has reported to date is around 115KW, and those charging sessions were performed during ideal charging temps. A 35KW charge rate once it reaches 80% SOC sounds about right though.