Impact of heater?I've been driving my Evolve+ in SoCal weather during the day (temperature 50-70 F, mixed wet & dry roads), and my typical range is about 270 miles on freeway @ 70mph and 300+ miles in city.
I turn on climate control @ 72 F about half of the time when it's colder in the late afternoon - evening.Impact of heater?
I turn on climate control @ 72 F about half of the time when it's colder in the late afternoon - evening.
I won’t take delivery on my Ariya for a week to ten days from now, so I am unable to perform my own range test procedures to see if they are in alignment with my own personal expectations. However the reduction in your range with the parameters you describe here would actually exceed any of my preconceived range expectations for Ariya. I might also suggest that your friend with the M Y living 13 miles from you might also be a fisherman.I have Evolve+ up to 289 miles range but it seems that no matter what, my Ariya may never hit that number.
The best I could get was 262 miles fully charge and that was with B-mode, e-Step, ECO mode and no freeway driving.
Anytime it involved freeway driving with 65-70 miles speed, the range drops to around 240 miles fully charged.
If I do 80 mph, the range dropped even further to just 210 miles at full charge. I was shocked!
It is very disappointing.
This tells me that Nissan Ariya relies a lot on regen to achieve the 289 miles and that range is totally guestimate.
If no or little regen, the range would be much lower.
Of course part of the reason why I have not hit the 289 miles magic number is because we are still in winter temperature.
Right now, in northern California, night time lowest temperatures still vary between low 30 to around 45F.
My friend, who lives 13 miles from my house, has Tesla Model Y Performance which is listed as 305 miles range.
When I asked him the current miles range when fully charged, he told me he got 290 miles.
A range reduction of only 15 miles which is darn good considering freezing temperature earlier in February 2023.
Based on my driving tests the past 3 weeks, I estimate that Ariya perhaps loses up to 30-40 miles range in temperature around 25 - 45F.
Emphasis is mine on #1. The range test runs all the way down to zero.Range Testing for Electric Vehicles
An all-electric vehicle (EV) produces no smog-forming or greenhouse gas emissions from its tailpipe. For EVs, vehicle testing provides important label information, such as fuel economy and range.
For EV range testing:
- A vehicle with a fully charged battery is driven continuously over the EPA city cycle until the battery is depleted and the vehicle can drive no further. The distance driven is recorded. This is repeated, again starting with a full charge, over the EPA highway cycle, again recording the distance driven when the battery is depleted. This “single cycle” test consists of multiple repeat drives of the city or highway cycle.
- Automakers also have the option of doing a multi-cycle test, which consists of four city cycles, two highway cycles, and two constant speed cycles.*
- All testing is done in a laboratory on a dynamometer.
- The city and highway driving ranges determined from this testing are adjusted to account for real-world factors that are not represented on the laboratory test procedures. These factors include such things the impact of air conditioning, of cold temperatures, and of high speed and aggressive driving behavior. Although the regulations allow some optional approaches, the most common approach is to use a factor of 0.7 to adjust all the test parameters, including range. For example:
- An EV achieves 200 miles on the highway laboratory test. Real-world highway driving range → 200 x 0.7 = 140 miles to account for aggressive driving and HVAC use.
- The adjusted city and highway range values are weighted together by 55% and 45%, respectively, to determine the combined city and highway driving range that appears on the EPA fuel economy label. For example:
- Assume an adjusted city range of 168 miles and an adjusted highway range of 140 (from example above). The official combined range value → (0.55 x 168) + (0.45 x 140) = 155 miles (values are rounded to the nearest whole number).
I had a model 3 with a 330-mile battery. I only got in the high 200s at Interstate speed limits but better with stop-and-go driving in town. This is the nature of EVs: they get better mileage around town. We have to readjust our perception of mileage and range to the opposite of gasoline cars.I have Evolve+ up to 289 miles range but it seems that no matter what, my Ariya may never hit that number.
The best I could get was 262 miles fully charge and that was with B-mode, e-Step, ECO mode and no freeway driving.
Anytime it involved freeway driving with 65-70 miles speed, the range drops to around 240 miles fully charged.
If I do 80 mph, the range dropped even further to just 210 miles at full charge. I was shocked!
It is very disappointing.
This tells me that Nissan Ariya relies a lot on regen to achieve the 289 miles and that range is totally guestimate.
If no or little regen, the range would be much lower.
Of course part of the reason why I have not hit the 289 miles magic number is because we are still in winter temperature.
Right now, in northern California, night time lowest temperatures still vary between low 30 to around 45F.
My friend, who lives 13 miles from my house, has Tesla Model Y Performance which is listed as 305 miles range.
When I asked him the current miles range when fully charged, he told me he got 290 miles.
A range reduction of only 15 miles which is darn good considering freezing temperature earlier in February 2023.
Based on my driving tests the past 3 weeks, I estimate that Ariya perhaps loses up to 30-40 miles range in temperature around 25 - 45F.
I have Evolve+ up to 289 miles range but it seems that no matter what, my Ariya may never hit that number.
The best I could get was 262 miles fully charge and that was with B-mode, e-Step, ECO mode and no freeway driving.
Anytime it involved freeway driving with 65-70 miles speed, the range drops to around 240 miles fully charged.
If I do 80 mph, the range dropped even further to just 210 miles at full charge. I was shocked!
It is very disappointing.
This tells me that Nissan Ariya relies a lot on regen to achieve the 289 miles and that range is totally guestimate.
If no or little regen, the range would be much lower.
Of course part of the reason why I have not hit the 289 miles magic number is because we are still in winter temperature.
Right now, in northern California, night time lowest temperatures still vary between low 30 to around 45F.
My friend, who lives 13 miles from my house, has Tesla Model Y Performance which is listed as 305 miles range.
When I asked him the current miles range when fully charged, he told me he got 290 miles.
A range reduction of only 15 miles which is darn good considering freezing temperature earlier in February 2023.
Based on my driving tests the past 3 weeks, I estimate that Ariya perhaps loses up to 30-40 miles range in temperature around 25 - 45F.
Got ariya venture plus since Jan 2023 , always getting 300 miles plusI have Evolve+ up to 289 miles range but it seems that no matter what, my Ariya may never hit that number.
The best I could get was 262 miles fully charge and that was with B-mode, e-Step, ECO mode and no freeway driving.
Anytime it involved freeway driving with 65-70 miles speed, the range drops to around 240 miles fully charged.
If I do 80 mph, the range dropped even further to just 210 miles at full charge. I was shocked!
It is very disappointing.
This tells me that Nissan Ariya relies a lot on regen to achieve the 289 miles and that range is totally guestimate.
If no or little regen, the range would be much lower.
Of course part of the reason why I have not hit the 289 miles magic number is because we are still in winter temperature.
Right now, in northern California, night time lowest temperatures still vary between low 30 to around 45F.
My friend, who lives 13 miles from my house, has Tesla Model Y Performance which is listed as 305 miles range.
When I asked him the current miles range when fully charged, he told me he got 290 miles.
A range reduction of only 15 miles which is darn good considering freezing temperature earlier in February 2023.
Based on my driving tests the past 3 weeks, I estimate that Ariya perhaps loses up to 30-40 miles range in temperature around 25 - 45F.
