Statement from Nissan

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Kenewber

Discussion Starter · 10 mo ago

Saw this from electrec.com article about Nissans response to the rebate

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Nissan79

· #2 · 10 mo ago (Edited)

I can confirm that Nissan is working immediately with their dealer network and law team to determine how to ensure that pre-order reservations will retain their eligibility for the 'old' EV tax credit. I just spoke with the sales manager at my local dealer, who said he just got off the phone with rep's from Nissan corporate. I called three local Nissan dealers today and one of them had no clue about any of this, another "heard about it yesterday", but had no information, and the third (who was not the dealer listed on my pre-order) let me talk to the Sales Manager who was very forthcoming with what he knew, and the actions they were taking. In a nutshell, Nissan seems to be going the same route as both Fisker and Rivian, and are drafting a 'legally binding sales agreement' (which will not need to include the VIN), and he believes it will be available for digital signatures by the weekend or very eary next week).

Nissan seems to be very clearly aware of all of this, but only some dealerships seems to be capable of understanding these details and planning a solution.

Obviously, I just moved my pre-order to this new dealer and told the sales manager that he has earned a new lifetime customer

. Bye-bye Beaverton Nissan in PDX. Hello Dick Hannah Nissan (thanks @CADGISEngr for the recommendation).

UPDATE 8/12/22 : I received this "legally binding purchase agreement" via email, just as the dealership sales manager promised. Good job Nissan! I 'signed' the document digitally by hitting the "I agree" button on the form.

I'm very pleased with Nissan's extraordinarily quick and meaningful action on this matter. I believe Nissan has done everything it can do to make the best of this ridiculous decision that is bundled up in the Inflation Reduction Act that Manchin and VP Harris enabled with their deciding votes.

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Smeds

· #3 · 10 mo ago

I just received email from the sales manager at my chosen dealer, who I’ve not previously spoken to, asking me to review an email that Nissan sent:

”recently regarding changes to the federal incentives offered on EV models. It will alter the structure of your purchase so please review the email. It may be in your spam or junk folde”

I have not received any such email and told them so. Has anyone gotten this??

ayko

· #4 · 10 mo ago

Can confirm, received call from dealership to look out for an email from Nissan to "lock-in" reservation/purchase a la Fisker/Rivian.

weekenddays

· #5 · 10 mo ago

I received a call from my selected dealership telling me that Nissan corporate would send an email later today regarding a “binding contract” to qualify for the Inflation Reduction Act prior orders tax credit exception.
I have as yet not received such an email from Nissan.

HotAirMN

· #6 · 10 mo ago

I also received a call from my dealership Sales manager about this. I confirmed I had not received the email yet (inbox or junk folders). He then checked with their Regional Manager and they stated there has been a slight delay in sending out the email but it was still expected to go out today. He said there should be a link in the email to click on and convert the Reservation into a Sales Order that will qualify for the tax credit. Standing by for the email......

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petulantbeard

· #7 · 10 mo ago

I'll add to these posts that I got a both a text and a call from my local dealer telling me about an email coming from Nissan. She told me that the $500 would remain refundable, which I thought was a nice detail to get. I have been checking my inbox and spam folder, but nothing yet. She said it would be a very short form, essentially with a check box indicating you intend to purchase the vehicle.

faithntim

· #8 · 10 mo ago

I got the same call from Woodfield Nissan in Chicago. They said watch for the email, and it will be very important to respond to it immediately. I believe converting the reserve to a sales order has to be done before Biden signs the bill, which could happen tonight or on Saturday.

faithntim

· #9 · 10 mo ago

faithntim said:
I got the same call from Woodfield Nissan in Chicago. They said watch for the email, and it will be very important to respond to it immediately. I believe converting the reserve to a sales order has to be done before Biden signs the bill, which could happen tonight or on Saturday.

I just received the email from Nissan with an agreement to sign. I attempted to sign it, but it produced an error. I hope they are fixing this soon.

belliott

· #10 · 10 mo ago

Mine successfully went through so try again.

GreginAZ22

· #11 · 10 mo ago

I just received the email and was able to successfully fill out the form.

faithntim

· #12 · 10 mo ago

belliott said:
Mine successfully went through so try again.

I got an error on Chrome, but it worked on Safari.

CRW

· #13 · 10 mo ago

I just got the email and the agreement, which is a binding contract between NNA and Customer. The $500 deposit is still refundable. In the end, Customer still needs to consult with a tax advisor concerning eligibility for the tax credit. But I guess this grandfathers one in under the previous tax credit.

atlasG

· #14 · 10 mo ago

CRW said:
I just got the email and the agreement, which is a binding contract between NNA and Customer. The $500 deposit is still refundable. In the end, Customer still needs to consult with a tax advisor concerning eligibility for the tax credit. But I guess this grandfathers one in under the previous tax credit.

Sweet! Can also confirm the $500 deposit is refundable, per the sales manager of my chosen dealership holding my res.

Jayway

· #15 · 10 mo ago

I got mine too!

jay Streets

petulantbeard

· #16 · 10 mo ago

Yup, received and signed as well. Not a slam dunk but nice to have something in place. Quick action by Nissan.

improvius

· #17 · 10 mo ago

Did anyone receive a confirmation email? All I'm getting is a confirmation page in the browser, and it doesn't have my name on it.

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mechmyday

· #18 · 10 mo ago

Agreement text for anyone whose interested

AGREEMENT TO PURCHASE
This Agreement to Purchase is a binding contract between the undersigned Customer and Nissan North America, Inc. (NNA) for the purchase by the Customer of a new Nissan Ariya from an authorized Nissan dealer of Customer’s choice.
In consideration of the mutual covenants contained herein and other good and valuable consideration, the receipt and sufficiency of which are hereby acknowledged, the parties agree as follows:
Reservation/Deposit: Customer hereby represents that the Customer has made an online reservation for a Nissan Ariya and paid a $500 deposit. NNA represents that it has received a reservation and deposit of $500 from the undersigned Customer for first access to an opportunity to purchase an Ariya of Customer’s preferred configuration when it is available.
Timing of Delivery: The ultimate sale of a specific Ariya vehicle will be made by an authorized and independent Nissan dealer, on terms to be negotiated between Customer and the selling dealer, which will include vehicle pricing. NNA will not be a party to that specific sales agreement. NNA agrees to use commercially reasonable efforts, subject to the terms of this Agreement, to deliver new Ariya vehicles to Nissan dealers in order for Customer’s dealer of choice to deliver a new Ariya to Customer.
Agreement Not Transferable: This Agreement is not transferable or assignable by Customer.
No Tax Advice: Customer agrees to consult with his/her own tax advisor concerning his/her eligibility for any potential tax credits. NNA makes no representations or guarantees that Customer will be eligible for any tax credit based upon this Agreement under current or future law, and assumes no obligation to defend Customer in any tax proceeding.
Force Majeure: This Agreement does not create any liability for Nissan if any failure to perform is due to an event beyond Nissan’s control, including, but not limited to, any act of God, terrorism, war, political insurgence, insurrection, riot, civil unrest, act of civil or military authority, uprising, unavailability of materials, strike, earthquake, flood, pandemic or any other natural or man-made eventuality outside of Nissan’s control.
Limitation of Liability: UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES WHATSOEVER, SUBJECT ONLY TO THE LIMITS OF APPLICABLE LAW, SHALL NISSAN BE LIABLE TO CUSTOMER FOR ANY DIRECT, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL, PUNITIVE, INDIRECT OR INCIDENTIAL DAMAGES OF ANY KIND WHATSOEVER, INCLUDING LOST PROFITS, LOSS OF BUSINESS OR LOSS OF OPPORTUNITY, REGARDLESS OF THE BASIS OR CIRCUMSTANCES OF ANY CLAIM, DAMAGE, LOSS OR EXPENSE, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE) OR OTHERWISE, AND REGARDLESS OF WHETHER NISSAN HAS BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF ANY CLAIMS, DAMAGES, LOSSES OR EXPENSES.
Applicable Law, Class Action and Jury Trial Waiver: This Agreement, its subject matter, its formation, and any non-contractual disputes or claims related thereto, are governed by the laws of the State of Tennessee. IN ADDITION, TO THE FULLEST EXTENT PERMITTED BY APPLICABLE LAW, NO CLAIM UNDER THIS AGREEMENT SHALL BE JOINED TO ANY OTHER CLAIM FROM OTHER CURRENT OR FORMER USERS OF THE NISSAN WEBSITE OR OTHERWISE RELATED TO THE ARIYA VEHICLES OR ANY OTHER RESERVATIONS. NO CLAIM BROUGHT UNDER THIS AGREEMENT SHALL PROCEED AS A CLASS ACTION. CUSTOMER HEREBY WAIVES ANY RIGHT TO TRIAL BY JURY IN ANY ACTION OR PROCEEDING ARISING OUT OF OR RELATING TO THIS AGREEMENT, WHETHER NOW EXISTING OR HEREAFTER ARISING, AND WHETHER SOUNDING IN CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE. CUSTOMER AGREES THAT NISSAN MAY FILE A COPY OF THIS AGREEMENT OR THIS PARAGRAPH WITH ANY COURT AS WRITTEN EVIDENCE OF THE KNOWING, VOLUNTARY AND BARGAINED-FOR AGREEMENT AMONG US TO IRREVOCABLY WAIVE TRIAL BY JURY AND THAT ANY ACTION OR PROCEEDING WHATSOEVER BETWEEN US RELATING TO THESE TERMS SHALL INSTEAD BE TRIED IN A COURT OF COMPETENT JURISDICTION BY A JUDGE SITTING WITHOUT A JURY.
Severable: If any provision of this Agreement is held to be illegal or unenforceable in a judicial proceeding, such provision shall be severed from this Agreement and shall be inoperative, and the remainder of this Agreement shall remain operative and binding on the parties.
By clicking “I AGREE” below, the Customer is providing his/her electronic signature that you have read and agree to this binding Agreement to Purchase a Nissan Ariya through an authorized and independent Nissan dealer, on terms to be negotiated and agreed upon between Customer and the selling dealer.

Kennyp354

· #19 · 10 mo ago

improvius said:
Did anyone receive a confirmation email? All I'm getting is a confirmation page in the browser, and it doesn't have my name on it.

No confirmation email either. Just the confirmation page in the browser with blanks to write in your name and date. I would have hoped for a document with our name and reservation #, but perhaps that is forthcoming. Nissan did have to create this system in quite a hurry. I am very grateful they implemented this plan, however.

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Jayway

· #20 · 10 mo ago

my name and number were on the email from NNA, I printed that to keep it with my conformation

jay Streets

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