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Stopping charge at 80%

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Is there a way to tell Ariya to stop charging when the battery reaches 80%
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I skimmed through the manual (recently available as a pdf in another forum post), and I didn't really see that there was a way to have it automatically stop at 80% (like with the earlier Leaf, where it was a simple selection somewhere in the charging option screen to pick either 80% or 100%. There appears to be a way to check on the charge level or status while charging, and then based on an estimate of time when the battery would reach 80%, a person could then simply unplug, but I kind of liked how the older Leaf did it for you. The newer one didn't have that feature. It does appear to have "charge timers" to manage start and stop time.
Given that I'll be charging overnight, I'd much rather have an option than have to guesstimate when to start the charge so that it hits 80% right around the time I leave. It'd be nice if they would offer this feature in an update.
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I agree, I kind of liked having control over it. There is a green car reports article online about the whole 80% thing and how some have found a way to adjust charge timing to get a similar result and all. Towards the end it discusses the idea of whether newer batteries can manage better compared to before.

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Well, this is disappointing. They should have learned this from Leaf. It's a lot easier on their side than our side to do this.
It’s such a common sense feature that it worries me they didn’t think to add it. I’m not optomistic that these OTA updates are really going to add requested features. Car makers see no incentive in improving cars after you already handed over your money and actually prefer the planned obsolescence to convince you to buy a new car. I bet this feature will be in new models but not this model. Please prove me wrong Nissan.
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I believe, and please don’t quote me on this, I saw in a video that you can set the charge state in the app. But I think it’s only got 80% and 100%.
I believe, and please don’t quote me on this, I saw in a video that you can set the charge state in the app. But I think it’s only got 80% and 100%.
What App?
This was the video. Like I said, don’t quote me.

Thanks for the info. Interesting that the Nissan Connect app would have a 80% setting but not the car. At least it isn’t mentioned in the manual. Maybe someone who actually has the car can tell us if the setting is in the Ariya.
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Looking at the above video, here, it seems that the 80% charge setting in the App is only for advance route-planning for long trips so the App knows how much you intend to charge at each charger along the way so the App's trip planning will find the next charger close enough. It does not appear that setting actually controls how much the Ariya will charge. Looking through the Ariya Owner's manual previously posted it certainly looks like there is no 80% charge setting.

I got my 2016 Nissan Leaf at the end of 2015 and was most frustrated that it did not have a setting to stop charging at 80% (as it does so little regen-braking above that, so I would not get much regen benefit for all the short errands that are most of my driving).

I was also frustrated at how long it took for the App to update the charge status or start the A/C, especially when I knew that the car was so close to me that I should not need to wait for some slow Nissan server far away on the Internet to do this.

So I figured it would be a useful project solve all of this. I spent much time reading on-line forums that were reverse-engineering the Leaf's CAN-bus protocol (and I contributed to this by finding the code that would unlock all doors). I built and programmed this box below which plugged-in to the Leaf's OBD-II port and used Wi-Fi to communicate to a second box that was in my home office.
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This second box has a touch-screen and colour display (below) to give me just the most important information and let me; quickly start the A/C, show whether the A/C is on, show the charging current and duration and change in charge, and toggle between whether to charge to 80% or 100%. And most importantly, when the charge reaches 80% it sends a Wi-Fi command to my EVSE to stop charging (as there appears to be no OBD-II command to stop the Leaf charging). And this all worked, and it was very quick as the Wi-Fi communicates directly with the car, with no waiting for Nissan's App and servers.
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While this all worked, it was not reliable, maybe it was the three Wi-Fi connections needed (between the car, second unit, and EVSE), maybe it was trying to continuously communicate over the OBD-II port which is intended only for diagnostics.

So I instead did something much simpler and which has been more reliable; I programmed my EVSE to only charge for 90 minutes overnight and I only plug in the Leaf when the charge is below 60% or so and the next day the charge is enough for they day's errands but low enough to get good regen braking.

When I have a longer trip I do need to manually override the 90-minute charge. And when I forget to unplug the Leaf and don't drive one day, it does charge to 100%.

So this is a big disappointment that Nissan still won't provide the built-in 80% charge limit. The rumour at the time was that Nissan had to get rid of the 80% limit as too many range tests (government, magazines ...) would only take the vehicle range with an 80% charge so the car's range would not look good on comparison charts. So some other cars instead called this 80% limit "hill-top mode" (or some similar work-around) as if you lived at the top of a big hill you'd only want 80% charge so you could still get regen to start your day coasting down the hill.
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That looks like it was a fun project! Thanks for posting the pics. Yeah I just don't get it when a manufacturer takes away a neat and useful feature and takes a big step backwards.
For those wanting to see the 2023 Ariya manual, here is the link:


But I looked through it to see if, per chance, there WOULD BE an option to turn off charging at 80% ... but could find nothing. So, it would appear that Ariya owners who want the option charging only to 80% overnight may have to do some trial-and-error charging; that is, keep a log (spreadsheet?) of various battery charges the car had when plugged in, set the Ariya to charge starting at some pre-determined overnight time before one gets up, then see how much the car has charged in those hours. After several trials, one should be able to get enough data to produce a PRINTABLE SCALE that helps one determine "If my car currently has an XX% charge, set the EVSE to start charging at YY:ZZ time." (Assumes an overnight charge to save electrical costs). And, if you get up at the same time each morning, you'll eventually know how to charge to 80% each evening. SOUNDS COMPLICATED ... and it is! But if the Ariya's batteries—like it's been said of past Li-ion batteries—reduce their lifespan when charging too many times to 100%, I for one am going to try this brute-force, trial-and-error process so that I CAN charge only to 80%when desired. (I am retired and will be doing mostly around-town driving so don't ned to start my travels at 100% charge.)

Yes, here's one more anticipating-my-Ariya owner who thinks Nisan dropped the ball by not allowing an pre-determined shut-off option in the Ariya's charging software/firmware/controls.
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This is what Nissan Electrified reply to me about this.

"It's not possible, but with Ariya it is not needed anyways. You can happily drive to 0 and charge to 100%, since due the buffers at the low and top end, you won't be running the cells themselves to 0 or 100% anyways. You paid for that range, don't be afraid to use it ;)"
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This is what Nissan Electrified reply to me about this.

"It's not possible, but with Ariya it is not needed anyways. You can happily drive to 0 and charge to 100%, since due the buffers at the low and top end, you won't be running the cells themselves to 0 or 100% anyways. You paid for that range, don't be afraid to use it ;)"
My interest in stopping charging at 80% is so that I get regenerative braking even right after charging, both to save wear on the brakes and because the car feels like it is running away from me when I don't get the usual deceleration when coasting and approaching a stop sign when driving just after charging.

If the Ariya still does full regenerative braking (only need this for stop signs, not long downhills) even after charging to 100% then I would be very happy with that and I would not have a need to limit charging to 80%.
My interest in stopping charging at 80% is so that I get regenerative braking even right after charging, both to save wear on the brakes and because the car feels like it is running away from me when I don't get the usual deceleration when coasting and approaching a stop sign when driving just after charging.

If the Ariya still does full regenerative braking (only need this for stop signs, not long downhills) even after charging to 100% then I would be very happy with that and I would not have a need to limit charging to 80%.
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My interest in stopping charging at 80% is so that I get regenerative braking even right after charging, both to save wear on the brakes and because the car feels like it is running away from me when I don't get the usual deceleration when coasting and approaching a stop sign when driving just after charging.

If the Ariya still does full regenerative braking (only need this for stop signs, not long downhills) even after charging to 100% then I would be very happy with that and I would not have a need to limit charging to 80%.
I agree about that weird feeling of the car "running away" instead of gently decelerating. I liked having it do that for me.
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