[Astros]

My dealer told me yesterday that my Aurora Green Premiere Ariya was in production, and should be here by mid-March. I was quite surprised to get a follow-up email this morning saying that it was actually on the truck for delivery today, and that it would be ready for pick up first thing tomorrow morning! I have an ID.4, and have felt like I've been watching a slow-moving race between whether my ID.4 would get it's long-promised software update, or the long-delayed Ariya would arrive first. I will take some pictures and write up my impressions tomorrow. We're on the fence, so we'll have to see whether we end up purchasing it.

 

[PNWariya]

My dealer told me yesterday that my Aurora Green Premiere Ariya was in production, and should be here by mid-March. I was quite surprised to get a follow-up email this morning saying that it was actually on the truck for delivery today, and that it would be ready for pick up first thing tomorrow morning! I have an ID.4, and have felt like I've been watching a slow-moving race between whether my ID.4 would get it's long-promised software update, or the long-delayed Ariya would arrive first. I will take some pictures and write up my impressions tomorrow. We're on the fence, so we'll have to see whether we end up purchasing it.

That's great your Ariya will soon be here! I'm waiting on a copper Premiere. We also have an ID.4 and are still waiting on that update, too. Looking forward to photos and reading about how you decide.

 

[Astros]

I like the copper color, too, but I think the green is perfect for us. One thing I really like about the Ariya is that Nissan is making them with a larger variety of interesting colors than most manufacturers.

 

[voxel]

ID.4 software update just got rescinded. If you are happy with your ID.4 today... I would not trade because of depreciation these days. Ariya is probably a slight upgrade... but it's not moving up a major class like the iX M60.

 

[Hank]

My dealer told me yesterday that my Aurora Green Premiere Ariya was in production, and should be here by mid-March. I was quite surprised to get a follow-up email this morning saying that it was actually on the truck for delivery today, and that it would be ready for pick up first thing tomorrow morning! I have an ID.4, and have felt like I've been watching a slow-moving race between whether my ID.4 would get it's long-promised software update, or the long-delayed Ariya would arrive first. I will take some pictures and write up my impressions tomorrow. We're on the fence, so we'll have to see whether we end up purchasing it.

Congrats!

Month end quota is when all the levers are pulled to meet sales...

"Underestimate, over deliver."

BTW, slam the driver side door. Feel and hear the quality thump sound of the Ariya.

 

[cmbrayer]

ID.4 software update just got rescinded. If you are happy with your ID.4 today... I would not trade because of depreciation these days. Ariya is probably a slight upgrade... but it's not moving up a major class like the iX M60.

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Good thing I never trusted VW. This only further confirms my reservations about buying one. What’s funny is I follow a VW id4 facebook page and boy do they still hype this car up despite all its shortcomings. After VW released they were not updating the software they just brushed it off like no big deal and you really don’t need It. What’s worse is they marketed the car as being able receive OTA updates. People would be livid if this happened at Tesla, yet VW gets a pass. Very strange

 

[EarlyEVadopter]

Good thing I never trusted VW. This only further confirms my reservations about buying one. What’s funny is I follow a VW id4 facebook page and boy do they still hype this car up despite all its shortcomings. After VW released they were not updating the software they just brushed it off like no big deal and you really don’t need It. What’s worse is they marketed the car as being able receive OTA updates. People would be livid if this happened at Tesla, yet VW gets a pass. Very strange

To your point, seems the world we live in today an auto maker who intentionally misleads the public is often given a pass by many a buyer. VW‘s OTA update debacle and Tesla’s costly FSD are just two examples. But an automaker best not mislead the Federal Government as in Dieselgate. But hey Electrify America was part of VW‘s punishment for that misnomer. It’s just not clear to me if it’s VW or the EV charging public that is now being punished for VW’s prior indiscretions.

 

[cybergem99]

ARIYA is a great car but one year late to the market. Lot of people would have purchased Ariya over other cars if it was offered in 2020/2021.

 

[Hank]

ARIYA is a great car but one year late to the market. Lot of people would have purchased Ariya over other cars if it was offered in 2020/2021.

Ariya is a still a great car over the MY. MY has a lot of influencers pumping up YT videos. We all know Ariya has way more bells and whistles without all the hype….

 

[Astros]

In the end, I ended up buying the Ariya.
Market conditions are changing fast, though, so it was a close thing. They wanted to only give me $30k for my ID.4 with 30,000 miles, but we were able to get just over $33k and an additional $2k incentive that I hadn't thought it would qualify for, plus MSRP and the reservationist credit and my $500 deposit of course. We've driven about a hundred miles so far around Seattle and on the freeways, and it is a huge improvement in comfort and quality over the ID.4, even though the ID.4 is a very comfortable car. A few thoughts on purchasing and on the car so far:

• If you have a reservation on any FWD version, you can probably expect to get your car very soon. Many people are canceling their reservations, and those cars are frequently being reallocated to other reservation holders.
• The built in navigation works really well. It uses Google for searching for an address or location, and it works as well as on my phone.
• Approach unlock and lock works great, and is not too sensitive if you are just walking around near the car.
• The heads-up display is really clear. Self-driving information, navigation instructions, and even the blind-spot monitor are nicely integrated.
• The side mirrors are much smaller than on the ID.4, and there is a bigger blind spot. I think we will end up relying on the blind spot monitor a little more than I am comfortable with.
• The self driving is a little more advanced than I had expected, even for ProPilot 2.0 . Hands-free driving on the freeway works very well, but it also anticipates curves very well and slows the car in advance. Plus, if there is a merge or interchange coming up, it will switch on the turn signals for you and change lanes after you press a button to authorize it.
• The amount of space under the false floor is enormous if you take out the silly styrofoam block. It's probably a good 10 inches deeper, and there is a mounting point for a spare tire. I don't have a spare yet, but I'm pretty sure one would fit below the false floor, at least if it was in the upper configuration.
• ProPilot Park takes a little getting used to, but actually parks very quickly. I tried self-parking with an I-pace several years ago, and this was much faster. It doesn't back in to spaces as far as I would like, though, so I found I needed to adjust a little after it was done.
• The sound system is not as good as in my ID.4, but I had upgraded those speakers to Focal. It's probably about the same as the base speaker that came with that car.
• The brakes seem a little grabby, making the Ariya difficult to maneuver in tight spaces. That was much smoother with e-step turned on, strangely.
• I haven't found the setting for it to remember to keep e-step turned on each time you start the car. That setting was there for the Leaf, so I assume it's there somewhere.
• Efficiency has been decent, even in mid-30s weather and freeway driving. We're down to about 65% state of charge after driving ~100 miles, so 300 miles in the summer seems easily achievable.
• The ID.4 is a quiet car, but the Ariya is on a completely different level.

 

[EarlyEVadopter]

In the end, I ended up buying the Ariya.
Market conditions are changing fast, though, so it was a close thing. They wanted to only give me $30k for my ID.4 with 30,000 miles, but we were able to get just over $33k and an additional $2k incentive that I hadn't thought it would qualify for, plus MSRP and the reservationist credit and my $500 deposit of course. We've driven about a hundred miles so far around Seattle and on the freeways, and it is a huge improvement in comfort and quality over the ID.4, even though the ID.4 is a very comfortable car. A few thoughts on purchasing and on the car so far:

• If you have a reservation on any FWD version, you can probably expect to get your car very soon. Many people are canceling their reservations, and those cars are frequently being reallocated to other reservation holders.
• The built in navigation works really well. It uses Google for searching for an address or location, and it works as well as on my phone.
• Approach unlock and lock works great, and is not too sensitive if you are just walking around near the car.
• The heads-up display is really clear. Self-driving information, navigation instructions, and even the blind-spot monitor are nicely integrated.
• The side mirrors are much smaller than on the ID.4, and there is a bigger blind spot. I think we will end up relying on the blind spot monitor a little more than I am comfortable with.
• The self driving is a little more advanced than I had expected, even for ProPilot 2.0 . Hands-free driving on the freeway works very well, but it also anticipates curves very well and slows the car in advance. Plus, if there is a merge or interchange coming up, it will switch on the turn signals for you and change lanes after you press a button to authorize it.
• The amount of space under the false floor is enormous if you take out the silly styrofoam block. It's probably a good 10 inches deeper, and there is a mounting point for a spare tire. I don't have a spare yet, but I'm pretty sure one would fit below the false floor, at least if it was in the upper configuration.
• ProPilot Park takes a little getting used to, but actually parks very quickly. I tried self-parking with an I-pace several years ago, and this was much faster. It doesn't back in to spaces as far as I would like, though, so I found I needed to adjust a little after it was done.
• The sound system is not as good as in my ID.4, but I had upgraded those speakers to Focal. It's probably about the same as the base speaker that came with that car.
• The brakes seem a little grabby, making the Ariya difficult to maneuver in tight spaces. That was much smoother with e-step turned on, strangely.
• I haven't found the setting for it to remember to keep e-step turned on each time you start the car. That setting was there for the Leaf, so I assume it's there somewhere.
• Efficiency has been decent, even in mid-30s weather and freeway driving. We're down to about 65% state of charge after driving ~100 miles, so 300 miles in the summer seems easily achievable.
• The ID.4 is a quiet car, but the Ariya is on a completely different level.

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Thanks for sharing your detailed comparison as a former id.4 owner. 😊

 

[Hank]

In the end, I ended up buying the Ariya.
Market conditions are changing fast, though, so it was a close thing. They wanted to only give me $30k for my ID.4 with 30,000 miles, but we were able to get just over $33k and an additional $2k incentive that I hadn't thought it would qualify for, plus MSRP and the reservationist credit and my $500 deposit of course. We've driven about a hundred miles so far around Seattle and on the freeways, and it is a huge improvement in comfort and quality over the ID.4, even though the ID.4 is a very comfortable car. A few thoughts on purchasing and on the car so far:

• If you have a reservation on any FWD version, you can probably expect to get your car very soon. Many people are canceling their reservations, and those cars are frequently being reallocated to other reservation holders.
• The built in navigation works really well. It uses Google for searching for an address or location, and it works as well as on my phone.
• Approach unlock and lock works great, and is not too sensitive if you are just walking around near the car.
• The heads-up display is really clear. Self-driving information, navigation instructions, and even the blind-spot monitor are nicely integrated.
• The side mirrors are much smaller than on the ID.4, and there is a bigger blind spot. I think we will end up relying on the blind spot monitor a little more than I am comfortable with.
• The self driving is a little more advanced than I had expected, even for ProPilot 2.0 . Hands-free driving on the freeway works very well, but it also anticipates curves very well and slows the car in advance. Plus, if there is a merge or interchange coming up, it will switch on the turn signals for you and change lanes after you press a button to authorize it.
• The amount of space under the false floor is enormous if you take out the silly styrofoam block. It's probably a good 10 inches deeper, and there is a mounting point for a spare tire. I don't have a spare yet, but I'm pretty sure one would fit below the false floor, at least if it was in the upper configuration.
• ProPilot Park takes a little getting used to, but actually parks very quickly. I tried self-parking with an I-pace several years ago, and this was much faster. It doesn't back in to spaces as far as I would like, though, so I found I needed to adjust a little after it was done.
• The sound system is not as good as in my ID.4, but I had upgraded those speakers to Focal. It's probably about the same as the base speaker that came with that car.
• The brakes seem a little grabby, making the Ariya difficult to maneuver in tight spaces. That was much smoother with e-step turned on, strangely.
• I haven't found the setting for it to remember to keep e-step turned on each time you start the car. That setting was there for the Leaf, so I assume it's there somewhere.
• Efficiency has been decent, even in mid-30s weather and freeway driving. We're down to about 65% state of charge after driving ~100 miles, so 300 miles in the summer seems easily achievable.
• The ID.4 is a quiet car, but the Ariya is on a completely different level.

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Congratulations! I think it’s a wise move especially getting a fairly good deal on your trade in with 30K miles on the odom. I don’t think anyone on this forum has Aurora Green Ariya Premiere.

 

[atlasG]

Congratulations! I think it’s a wise move especially getting a fairly good deal on your trade in with 30K miles on the odom. I don’t think anyone on this forum has Aurora Green Ariya Premiere.

Aurora Green Ariya Premiere owner here. It's an amazing color.

 

[voxel]

The sound system is not as good as in my ID.4, but I had upgraded those speakers to Focal. It's probably about the same as the base speaker that came with that car.

Uh... the 2021 ID.4 I owned was the worst audio system I've experienced in an EV. The Mach-E Bang and Olausson system is vastly better but not spectacular. The Model 3/Y audio system is my new baseline for what a good audio system should. The BMW i4 HK system is a notch above the the 3/Y.

I'm ignoring luxury level audio systems on the Model S and BMW iX as they are class above mainstream EVs.

• The ID.4 is a quiet car, but the Ariya is on a completely different level.

Meh. The Ariya doesn't seem that quiet in my second test drive yesterday. It's quiet but not BMW iX nor i4 quiet. It's quiet for a mainstream EV I guess.