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All everyone wants is 1 person to say my vehicle is being built,it has I.D # and timeframe for arrival. THAT IS IT??? Everyone here is getting tired? My dealer checks frequently but still someone at NISSAN HDQTR should be able to narrow down month VS Late Fall. Not 1 person has had a POSITIVE or GENERAL arrival time. Bottom line we are giving our hard earned money and deserve more.Once 1 person responds we know the ball is rolling. The dealers know we wont walk because other SUV are further out. Please give your thoughts and leave message vs just reading and moving on. If enought people give their thoughts MAYBE someone will listen.We support EV vehicles but it is also a scary thought if you would take a trip Nationwide, most of my use will be local only. If I have to go somewhere distant I will still drive my Tacoma, right now in California with Blackouts what if you drive and have no place to charge/ ok done venting still staying positive. PLEASE LEAVE YOUR THOUGHTS. thanks
 

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I agree but I think our only options are to wait or walk. I had the worst experience with my Volkswagen reservation so this is not unique to Nissan. I think the supply of EVs is so low that automakers have no incentive to be transparent because if you won't wait an eternity, someone else will. Nissan probably also doesn't want to deal with the backlash from customers if we knew how abysmal Ariya production really is - at least that's my guess? I've come to the conclusion that electric vehicles in general are borderline vaporware that are likely being used as slick marketing to create a halo effect for the ICE vehicles that do exist in real numbers. I challenge Nissan to prove me wrong.

On a positive note: you're not alone. I doubt Nissan will listen to us (or care) but a forum is a good place to commiserate. ;) Now that European deliveries are starting, hopefully we can learn more about the Ariya, share and discuss while we wait.
 

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It is not even "Fall" yet as it does not start until Sept. 22nd. Late Fall is more like the end of October or early November. Check Facebook for the Ariya International groups and you will see actual customers with Ariya's in the driveway.
Chill out. Please.
 

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It is not even "Fall" yet as it does not start until Sept. 22nd. Late Fall is more like the end of October or early November. Check Facebook for the Ariya International groups and you will see actual customers with Ariya's in the driveway.
Chill out. Please.
so far only Japan and UK.
well, not sure what the deal was in the US, but in Canada we were promised prices in spring and FwD delivered early fall.

so far, there are no prices yet.

as for early fall delivery, the car must be already on the assembly line (it will take at least 8 weeks from start to delivery), which is clearly not happening.

so OP has the all the rights to be unhappy. A little communication efforts from Nissan would have made the situation better, but they just don’t give a (whatever).

this is what pisses me off, they don’t seem to care about their clients at all. They know they will sell their cars as there are hundreds in their waiting lists, so…

but the fortunes will change in few years, people will remember how they were treated, and they will lose customers. Everyone and their dog is now making EVs…
 

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so far only Japan and UK.
well, not sure what the deal was in the US, but in Canada we were promised prices in spring and FwD delivered early fall.

so far, there are no prices yet.

as for early fall delivery, the car must be already on the assembly line (it will take at least 8 weeks from start to delivery), which is clearly not happening.

so OP has the all the rights to be unhappy. A little communication efforts from Nissan would have made the situation better, but they just don’t give a (whatever).

this is what pisses me off, they don’t seem to care about their clients at all. They know they will sell their cars as there are hundreds in their waiting lists, so…

but the fortunes will change in few years, people will remember how they were treated, and they will lose customers. Everyone and their dog is now making EVs…
Yes people will remember but how many customers will they really lose when all automakers are treating people the same? 😂
 

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I am not aware of any other fiasco like Nissan. The radio silence and the arrogance here is unparalleled…
It’s an industry-wide problem. There’s still a chip shortage and mining the raw materials to make EV batteries isn’t easy. China (where many EV battery components are made) is suffering an unprecedented heat wave and I recently heard that there may be a glass shortage coming that could limit the supply of windshields. There’s a lot going on these days and it’s a tough time to buy any new car, especially an electric one. Yes they can all do a better job of communicating but it’s a seller’s market right now.
 

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It’s an industry-wide problem. There’s still a chip shortage and mining the raw materials to make EV batteries isn’t easy. China (where many EV battery components are made) is suffering an unprecedented heat wave and I recently heard that there may be a glass shortage coming that could limit the supply of windshields. There’s a lot going on these days and it’s a tough time to buy any new car, especially an electric one. Yes they can all do a better job of communicating but it’s a seller’s market right now.
this is NOT the issue I was highlighting… delays are to be expected, but how you communicate and handle these issues is what matters. Providing regular updates to clients and dealers is crucial in such situations.

Nissan acts arrogant and basically telling their client to … off
 

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I am not aware of any other fiasco like Nissan. The radio silence and the arrogance here is unparalleled…
Solterra is almost as bad. I reserved/ordered in late April with an August ETA and because of wheelgate... nobody knows when it will arrive now (Toyota shutdown bz4x/Solterra production lines in August and first two weeks of Sept).
 

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My advice is reserve a couple of cars that you think you would be happy with and buy the first one that shows up. That’s my strategy. Of course the Ariya is my favorite but if an ID.4 shows up sooner I’m going to buy it and get off this ride :LOL:
 

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It’s an industry-wide problem. There’s still a chip shortage and mining the raw materials to make EV batteries isn’t easy. China (where many EV battery components are made) is suffering an unprecedented heat wave and I recently heard that there may be a glass shortage coming that could limit the supply of windshields. There’s a lot going on these days and it’s a tough time to buy any new car, especially an electric one. Yes they can all do a better job of communicating but it’s a seller’s market right now.
this is NOT the issue I was highlighting… delays are to be expected, but how you communicate and handle these issues is what matters. Providing regular updates to clients and dealers is crucial in such situations.

Nissan acts arrogant and basically telling their client to …
Solterra is almost as bad. I reserved/ordered in late April with an August ETA and because of wheelgate... nobody knows when it will arrive now (Toyota shutdown bz4x/Solterra production lines in August and first two weeks of Sept).
Well doesn’t seem at all the same to me. At least you know what’s happening and you are up to date with delays. Can you provide similar for the Ariya? Can ANYONE provide ANY info about the Ariya
 

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I am not aware of any other fiasco like Nissan. The radio silence and the arrogance here is unparalleled…
Actually, I'd say that Audi has been even worse on the Q4 e-tron. It has been promised for the last two years, but Audi did not put into place any ordering system, so interested potential buyers have been simply strung along...
 

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Well doesn’t seem at all the same to me. At least you know what’s happening and you are up to date with delays. Can you provide similar for the Ariya? Can ANYONE provide ANY info about the Ariya
Nobody knows anything with the Solterra.. Folks only found out about the production shutdown because of a global Toyota news release.

At least the Ariya is actually shipping and in customer's hands in the UK. Toyota + Subaru had to buyback or recall all their EVs and have no ETA on when they will be re-released. And most prospective owners just lost their tax credits due to this lug-bolt issue.
 

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Actually, I'd say that Audi has been even worse on the Q4 e-tron. It has been promised for the last two years, but Audi did not put into place any ordering system, so interested potential buyers have been simply strung along...
That’s not surprising. VW has also been terrible. At least Nissan tried to mitigate the tax rebate issue by offering purchase agreements. VW pretty much said talk to your dealer and good luck.
 

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Nobody knows anything with the Solterra.. Folks only found out about the production shutdown because of a global Toyota news release.

At least the Ariya is actually shipping and in customer's hands in the UK. Toyota + Subaru had to buyback or recall all their EVs and have no ETA on when they will be re-released. And most prospective owners just lost their tax credits due to this lug-bolt issue.
you are saying that we know a lot for the Ariya because some were delivered in UK and Japan. At the same time you say that we don’t know anything about Toyotas, but you contradict yourself:

1. The lug issue was discovered because cars were in fact delivered in US
2. We know why the production is halted (safety first). The recall is official news from Toyota. When this will be fixed - nobody knows, maybe never. But we know how the production is going (basically not going due to safety concerns which require careful analysis and fix before it can resume).

Now let’s compare this to what we know about the Ariya. In Canada, people put down their money back in January. They were promised :

1. Prices revealed in spring. Guess what, it’s autumn in 10 days, and still no prices. Many people inquired with Nissan as to why - no answer was provided (someone was cited supply chain issues, as if the supply chain is only bad in Canada lolll)

2. cars in early fall. We all agre that this is impossible. And while delays are to be expected, there was ZERO communication from Nissan on this. Heck, there are not even prices in early fall, let alone cars.

these are the FACTS, any rational creature should be able to decide for themselves which company is more arrogant and doesn’t care about their clients…
 

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you are saying that we know a lot for the Ariya because some were delivered in UK and Japan. At the same time you say that we don’t know anything about Toyotas, but you contradict yourself:

1. The lug issue was discovered because cars were in fact delivered in US
2. We know why the production is halted (safety first). The recall is official news from Toyota. When this will be fixed - nobody knows, maybe never. But we know how the production is going (basically not going due to safety concerns which require careful analysis and fix before it can resume).

Now let’s compare this to what we know about the Ariya. In Canada, people put down their money back in January. They were promised :

1. Prices revealed in spring. Guess what, it’s autumn in 10 days, and still no prices. Many people inquired with Nissan as to why - no answer was provided (someone was cited supply chain issues, as if the supply chain is only bad in Canada lolll)

2. cars in early fall. We all agre that this is impossible. And while delays are to be expected, there was ZERO communication from Nissan on this. Heck, there are not even prices in early fall, let alone cars.

these are the FACTS, any rational creature should be able to decide for themselves which company is more arrogant and doesn’t care about their clients…
1. No Solterras were delivered. The lug bolt issue was found in a Japanese or Taiwanese bz4x. 220-ish bz4xs were delivered to US customers (who were able to claim the $7500 tax credit!) but not a single Solterra was delivered in North America.
2. Production was halted and announced silently by Toyota via regular news releases on production. Subaru America has not communicated squat.

Solterra reservation holders are only finding out news via secondary sources.

My Subie dealer has my $1K deposit on the Solterra on top of the $250 online reservation fee. It's an actual factory order for the Limited trim sent to Subaru (and I have a price sheet with an OTD price).

With Nissan/Ariya... my reservation has yet been converted to a factory order. My Subaru dealer has NOT communicated anything regarding the delays since I signed and paid for the factory order back in late April. It was supposed to arrive mid-August (with demo drives available in early/mid July). Thankfully my factor order deposit is refundable but I'm sure some dealers in some states have non-refundable deposits on submitted orders.

With Nissan, it's only a $500 reservation deposit much like GM/Cadillac and not a real order. I can still switch dealers and the features/price can still change. Nothing is locked.
 

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False alert. Just got a call from a Nissan dealer that I no longer use for my Ariya delivery (since they want to install dealer add-on's at 3x prices) that they had a new EV for me - Turned out that they just received a new batch of 2023 Leaf models and wanted to sell me one with markup. Anyway, since 2023 Leaf models are here, hopefully Ariya will follow soon.
 
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