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My Premier has a claimed range of 287 miles. With an 87 kWh battery that calculates to 3.3 mi/kWh. I typically get less than 3 mi/kWh around town with heater turned off. My 2019 Chevy Bolt gets over 4 mi/kWh, but the Ariya is a nicer car. The Bolt is a better EV given the one-pedal driving.
 

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To be fair to, keep in mind that the Tesla not only got more range, it did so with a smaller battery, and with two motors. A more fair comparison would pit the Tesla against the AWD Ariya, which we haven't seen numbers on yet; but certainly will be lower given the additional motor.

If there's one thing to be said about Tesla, it is that they make a much more efficient drivetrain (by comparison) than any other manufacturer.
 

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The aero is a good point, and certainly factors in.
Was such a good point I looked it up. This shows the Ariya at 0.297:

And the 'equivalent' Telsa model Y is 0.230:

Telsa definitely shows a lower (better) drag coefficient, and indeed that math works out to just shy of a 25% advantage for Tesla, which seems like alot - so certainly that is affecting Nissan's range (in comparison). But I think the less sleek (i.e., more traditional SUV) design is what make some folks prefer the Nissan over the Tesla... but yes it does seem to come at a cost that I didn't even realize until you brought it up.

So the takeaway (IMO) is that the Nissan drivetrain probably isn't as inefficient as it would first seem when looking at range/battery size only - even though it's not really an apples/apples comparison between a model Y and an Ariya in large part due to the 2 motor vs 1 motor issue.

All of these nitty gritty details are what make EV's so difficult to choose based on logic/facts. Back when I bought the Leaf for instance, it was easy - there was no other viable choice at the time. Today's EV market is pretty overwhelming in choice.

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Whatcar magazine has published a winter range video where a group of cars were tested from 100 to 0%. The Ariya performed well almost equalling the Model Y with a range of 269 miles.

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Great! It is why I bought a Nissan because of their 12 years of electrification.

IMO, the reason why Tesla gets 3.6 miles/kWH is because their vehicle is so minimalist compared to Ariya 4500 LBS SUV with full of features.
 

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My Premier has a claimed range of 287 miles. With an 87 kWh battery that calculates to 3.3 mi/kWh. I typically get less than 3 mi/kWh around town with heater turned off. My 2019 Chevy Bolt gets over 4 mi/kWh, but the Ariya is a nicer car. The Bolt is a better EV given the one-pedal driving.
My Ariya Evolve gets between 3.4 to 3.6 mi/kWH on average with Standard mode and eStep. I have a heavy lead foot, 🙃
 

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So the takeaway (IMO) is that the Nissan drivetrain probably isn't as inefficient as it would first seem when looking at range/battery size only - even though it's not really an apples/apples comparison between a model Y and an Ariya in large part due to the 2 motor vs 1 motor issue.

All of these nitty gritty details are what make EV's so difficult to choose based on logic/facts. Back when I bought the Leaf for instance, it was easy - there was no other viable choice at the time. Today's EV market is pretty overwhelming in choice.

thanks!
This is the actual measured efficiency of the Leaf motor and inverter. It goes up to 96% on a Leaf over 10 years old (when the testing was done). This measurement is based on energy coming out of the battery versus energy that eventually comes out of the electric motor, so the losses at highway speeds are a few percent. So overall efficiency largely comes down to aerodynamic losses and weight factors.


This evaluation is from government lab testing, this particular report from Oak Ridge National Labs. The US government has done various tests to see how this technology is progressing in the marketplace. The report is at this link download.

 
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