V2H or V2G

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Santa

Discussion Starter · Jun 6, 2020

I know that the Leaf has a possibility for V2H (if not, pls let me know).
Does anybody know if the ARIYA will have at least the same possibility (or better more integrated?? )

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Will-Mac

· #2 · Jun 6, 2020

The Leaf should be able to use V2H and I would imagine the Ariya would be the same. Are you planning on getting one @Santa?

Nissan Australia touts LEAF V2H capabilities, disses Tesla battery project - Charged EVs

Nissan’s Global Director of Electric Vehicles, Nic Thomas, recently took a trip Down Under for the Australian launch of the Nissan LEAF Plus. In his speech, he highlighted the LEAF’s bidirectional charging capability, which he said is already being used in Japan, and is expected to be available...

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Santa

Discussion Starter · #3 · Jun 7, 2020

Will-Mac said:
The Leaf should be able to use V2H and I would imagine the Ariya would be the same. Are you planning on getting one @Santa?

Nissan Australia touts LEAF V2H capabilities, disses Tesla battery project - Charged EVs

Nissan’s Global Director of Electric Vehicles, Nic Thomas, recently took a trip Down Under for the Australian launch of the Nissan LEAF Plus. In his speech, he highlighted the LEAF’s bidirectional charging capability, which he said is already being used in Japan, and is expected to be available...

chargedevs.com

First of all, thanks for your input.

I have PV (Solar panels) over-cappacity and would like to use my day (over)production to use at night and for the rest of the week if i do some "more" driving.
I know that in scandinavia (Asia) they are far ahead of the rest of Europe. Look at this awesome BornholmFleet

Bornholm solution
The TESLA solution is pretty expensive so the r.o.i. is not interesting, but why not use a car for it? its MUCH larger capacity, far less expensive, and already stored in the right place.
Even in Asia they are far ahead of us, so if "we" dont want to get to far behind (left in dust...) we should REALY make things available to "the people of Earth"

My wishes for a EV:
4WD
High seats (SUV like) because i'm not getting younger

VERRY deasent range
and yes V2H would be a option i'm willing to pay for (even if it doesnt come cheapo)

friendly regards,
Santa

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Santa

Discussion Starter · #4 · Jun 7, 2020

Santa said:
First of all, thanks for your input.

I have PV (Solar panels) over-cappacity and would like to use my day (over)production to use at night and for the rest of the week if i do some "more" driving.
I know that in scandinavia (Asia) they are far ahead of the rest of Europe. Look at this awesome BornholmFleet Bornholm solution
The TESLA solution is pretty expensive so the r.o.i. is not interesting, but why not use a car for it? its MUCH larger capacity, far less expensive, and already stored in the right place.
Even in Asia they are far ahead of us, so if "we" dont want to get to far behind (left in dust...) we should REALY make things available to "the people of Earth"

My wishes for a EV:
4WD
High seats (SUV like) because i'm not getting younger
VERRY deasent range
and yes V2H would be a option i'm willing to pay for (even if it doesnt come cheapo)

friendly regards,
Santa

ps: i dont agree with some of the statements from the (nice) link you gave.
f.i. He said thet the 40 Kw Leaf is 4 times larger that a comparing tesla solution but that is (to my opinion) wrong
If you discharge your complete car battery, than what is the use of your car if you have to start walking

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I my opinion you need at least a 100~150 Km buffer in your car for unexpected traveling.
At a car consumption of lets say 200Wh/Km, you need a "constant" 25KWh in your car, the rest is for other uses.

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reeler

· #5 · Dec 25, 2021

It is CCS and the standards group is working on a bi-directional protocol. The LEAF is Chademo so that isn't helpful.

The Ioniq5 has V2L and the ID.4 is promising V2H with V3 software update. Ariya should do something.

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ab13

· #6 · 7 mo ago

Bringing up an old thread for some info.
From this interview info, however I don't expect this feature to be ready at the product release, probably future.

Exclusive Interview With Nissan Chief Engineer Hikaru...

Clean Technica had an exclusive interview with Nissan Chief Engineer Hikaru Nakajima about the Ariya. It's interesting that he distinguishes the Ariya's e-4ORCE as a 4WD system when asked about how it compares to the Model 3's AWD...

www.ariyaforums.com

"Does the car have a AC100V outlet? I could not find one on the exhibition car.

We do not plan to include AC outputs with the ARIYA, but it can be connected to V2H (Vehicle-2-Home) machines."

The important detail is that you could use a bidirectional charger like these coming next year from Wallbox, Emporia, and others. They actually charge by 11.5 kW DC instead of AC, so you get efficiency of 97-98%+ rather than about 90% of built in car chargers. Importantly, it would skip the AC charging limit of 7.2 kW the Ariya has. This was an issue in my mind, but now at least there is a possible option around this with these DC units.