[atreis]

My Leafs didn’t report ~10% range shortfalls like the Ariya does, or require e-Pedal to report full range at 100%. The Ariya’s being driven/charged in a climate with 60-degree daily temperatures, no significant load, etc. My experience is markedly less than what was marketed, even without being used in snow or lots of other weight.

Based on the independent testing spreadsheet shared earlier in this forum, it looks like Nissan may have some history of overstating range by 11%? In any case, advertising a car’s range based on what a bone-thin driver might get with hypermile techniques and no load strikes me as ridiculous.

The estimated range on the window sticker is legally required to be the range derived using EPA's well-defined testing regime, regardless of how realistic (or unrealistic) that testing regime might be. The requirements are the same for all makes and models, making it useful as a comparison between cars more so than a true estimate of what any individual driver will achieve. My ICE Honda Pilot never, in 140K miles, achieved it's EPA estimated gas mileage with me driving. My wife, on the other hand, routinely exceeds EPA estimated mileage. She drives a lot slower and less aggressively than I do.
Here's some information on that testing for EVs:

https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/pdfs/EPA%20test%20procedure%20for%20EVs-PHEVs-11-14-2017.pdf

 

[Nismantx]

We went for a big loop around TN and north GA over the weekend looking for a dealer that could actually sell us an Ariya (they won't) and I test drove 3 different Engage trims which of course all have the smaller 63kwh battery. The first one was indicating 155 miles at 83% SOC, the 2nd was showing 224 miles at 98% and the 3rd was 215 miles at 89%. If you extrapolate these numbers out for 100% SOC (186, 228 and 241) I guess it's possible the Ariya's "GOM" has some bugs to work out.
I guess if you really want to know what's going on maybe try a 55mph range test and see what you get.
The real world energy available is just that so It should be close to 289 miles at those speeds regardless of what the app thinks it is.

I don't think there is any bug in the calculation of mile/range in my experience. What you have experienced was 3 different vehicles driven or used by multiple people. One of those vehicles might have been idle for longer another one was driven normally, third might have been driven softer. The calculation takes into consideration how many kW/mile was used. So based on that it will display that if you drive this way then you could achieve this range with this charge. These get updated after each trip. You could see that also once you turn the vehicle off. Next time it will show the updated range.
My best range is 5.75 miles/kw. To get EPA s 304-mile range, you will need to drive a minimum of 3.49 miles/kW. Even on the highway going 70 mi per hour for 50 miles I have achieved 3.74 mi/kW. After calculating manually all the miles from my previous charge till now, I can confirm that it is displaying correctly.

 

[JTC652]

Hi guys, I have the ARIYA Evolve+ with an extended battery range of 289 miles.
Anytime I charge it, I get a range of 218 miles on my Nissan Connect dashboard and the same on the car's dashboard.
I have tried reaching out to Nissan several times for help but no one from Customer Care seems to have answers.
I was told to contact my dealer and my dealer is also saying I should contact Nissan.
Any help on this issue will help and I want to know if anyone else is experiencing this as well. View attachment 1066

Ignore the ‘miles’ it’s a guess like all EVs, you haven’t had degradation the Guess ‘O Meter (GOM) is exactly that.
Get used to the % battery it’s much more of an indicator as to range.

The GOM can only give a guide based on state of charge, how the car is driven, temperature and topology. When the weather warms up the GOM will become more optimistic.

 

[martinrpittock]

Hi guys, I have the ARIYA Evolve+ with an extended battery range of 289 miles.
Anytime I charge it, I get a range of 218 miles on my Nissan Connect dashboard and the same on the car's dashboard.
I have tried reaching out to Nissan several times for help but no one from Customer Care seems to have answers.
I was told to contact my dealer and my dealer is also saying I should contact Nissan.
Any help on this issue will help and I want to know if anyone else is experiencing this as well. View attachment 1066

We have the 67kw range 218 -250 on getting 178 Miles on a full charge, promised it will get better after 1000 miles?

 

[dh_1313]

We have the 67kw range 218 -250 on getting 178 Miles on a full charge, promised it will get better after 1000 miles?

It won't get better after 1000 miles. Someone that has sold ICE cars their entire lives might have innocently said that because it's stuck in their mind that gas engines do get slightly more efficient once broken in after about 1000 miles but it's irrelevant here with an EV. 178 miles is not all that bad. I have a 2018 LEAF and a Model Y. The Tesla is the new standard range model with about 66kWh usable and is rated for 269 miles. On the freeway going constant 75mph, it will get about 190 - 210 miles.

 

[Graptor]

I have an Engage, supposed to be 210. I have to drive the car under 65 miles per hour on the highway and limit most of my travel to secondary roads at less than 55 to get 210 range or above. I’m guessing you’re driving it like a gas car and using up the battery pretty good. If you want the advertised miles, you’ll need to use eco, turn off the heater, and drive like your on egg shells. Or just enjoy your car, 218 is a long ways.

 

[ngemah]

We have the 67kw range 218 -250 on getting 178 Miles on a full charge, promised it will get better after 1000 miles?

How is the range looking like now?

 

[FolsomCa]

How is the range looking like now?

I have larger 87kw battery,7300 miles. I average 220 miles per charge I got tired of looking at numbers and pushing buttons everytime I drove somewhere. I use ECO IF I Remember but otherwise I just drive as before and enjoy. Miles are meaningless to me.(Age 66). I think the estimated RANGE should be what you get by driving normal and not trying to extend miles. I think people in forum will all switch back to relaxed driving once they have their Ariya awhile. So my estimate is most people on 87kw battery will average 220-230 within a year.Less with highway driving.

 

[martinrpittock]

If it was cold over overnight and you drive short distances, the battery doesn't get to warm up.

England uk Ariya 63kw battery January only 176 miles full charge now after 2,000 miles warmer weather 18 degrees up to 216 miles

 

[blackhammer]

I have larger 87kw battery,7300 miles. I average 260 miles per charge I got tired of looking at numbers and pushing buttons everytime I drove somewhere. I use ECO IF I Remember but otherwise I just drive as before and enjoy. Miles are meaningless to me.(Age 66). I think the estimated RANGE should be what you get by driving normal and not trying to extend miles. I think people in forum will all switch back to relaxed driving once they have their Ariya awhile. So my estimate is most people on 87kw battery will average 240-270 within a year.Less with highway driving.

Last night, I completed charging my Premiere, from 62% to 100% at home (level 2). I have 2,648 total miles driven in it so far, after my purchase in early April '23. Here's the verdict:

I'm EXTREMELY HAPPY with my car's performance! I'm always driving in ECO D and no more than 65 mph, highway and 45-55 mph in city. No issues to report of, except my Alexa assistant keeps periodically disconnecting while driving. I think that's bc of the car loses wi-fi connections and jumps to Bluetooth on my phone. Sucks, but I can live with that.😊

 

[rodjahnz]

Yes, sure. I have the exact same problem with my car. I've had it since November last year. I can never get it to charge about 215 I don't think there's any answers because nobody wants to help.
I've been in the dealership. I've called Nissan. Nobody cares they just said drive your car and go away.
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[FolsomCa]

Yes, sure. I have the exact same problem with my car. I've had it since November last year. I can never get it to charge about 215 I don't think there's any answers because nobody wants to help.
I've been in the dealership. I've called Nissan. Nobody cares they just said drive your car and go away.
I

I have wrote down ACTUAL miles for last 2 months. Weather 50 or above.(N.Calif) 100% city driving ECO Mode Evolve+ Guessometer says 280 avg. So for tracking all city driving it equals 10%=21 or 22 miles. I get accurate readings charging to 100% in garage. Now I dont watch guess o meter or track actual miles. I know my average and I know it increase with highway driving but I bought knowing all city range. Good Luck EDH 16,600 miles

 

[Molybdenum]

Yes, sure. I have the exact same problem with my car. I've had it since November last year. I can never get it to charge about 215 I don't think there's any answers because nobody wants to help.
I've been in the dealership. I've called Nissan. Nobody cares they just said drive your car and go away.
I

What does your car say your miles per kWh is?

The range is a weird estimated guess of range. In my experience with my Evolve+, the "miles" shown is often significantly lower than the actual range.

That's not a problem with the car, and it (ours) DOES get 270-some miles with typical 60-80 mph highway driving (as long it's not going up mountains, or doing excessive acceleration). It's just that the "miles" shown is low. In our case, I think it's mainly because we live on a steep hill, which throws off the range estimate.