[Watts-Up]

I don’t think any are more recommended than another. Ultimately its what is most important to you: cost, features, capabilities, durability, etc… Make use of the many opinions and links on the forum.

 

[Molybdenum]

That Wallbox is just one appropriate option, and it supposedly has some sort of discount involved. Shopping around for features or deals is another option, and checking with your electric company and your state may turn up some other discounts.

And yes, see the Related Threads this site lists for you below.

 

[atreis]

I recently bought ariya evolve + and i was shopping for a home ev charger. Is the wallbox most recommended charger for this vehicle since is the only one on nissans website, or is it ok to venture other chargers like the chargepoint or juicebox. Whats so special about the wallbox since its on the ariya page . My local utility offers a $300 rebate on the chargepoint!

Nissan and Wallbox partnered to offer a discount. That's the only thing significant about that one being on Nissan's site. (It's a good one too.) There are MANY options available, and any J1772 charger will work fine.

Juicebox: Lots of complaints about the app for this one. Personally, I wouldn't go there.
ChargePoint: With a discount, it's a good option. No major issues.

I use an Enphase/ClipperCreek, which is a dumb EVSE, but very well made. The Tesla EVSE are also very good, and they have one that has a J1772 adapter included. A few others here are using the Emporia EVSE, which is also well regarded.
There are other good ones too.

 

[bufkey]

Emporia 48A because of great review and price - On sale for $300 @Amazon a few days ago, now $400. If you have solar, can be combined with Emporia Vue to charge only when there's excess power to save cost.

 

[csatyam]

If you live in NJ, make sure you buy an approved charger so that you will get $1500 from your electric company. I bought wallbox with Nissan discount, but it is not approved by JCPL. So bought ChargePoint

 

[NoMoGas Denver]

I picked up the Enel Juicebox 40 on a flash sale at best buy for $420. I liked that the app lets set charge % range and not just a timer. The car does not allow for that. I can set it to only start under lets say 40% and to cap out at say 85%. I just got it but seems fine so far. Took a minute to figure out how to get it connected to wifi but been working great since. I had a 14-50 plug put in very close to where I wanted it so this option was great was to just plug it into my outdoor 14-50 RV plug box and mount it to the wall.

I'm hoping to test if the charger has it's limit set to say 85% and the battery is at that state of charge and the scheduled climate comes on for a cold morning if it will pull power from the plug even though SOC is at max on the battery. This would be ideal if it worked like that.

 

[Jayway]

I have been using a Juice box for more than 5 years now and the app keeps getting better. when I did have an issue, the customer service was very good. Highly recommend

 

[bufkey]

Emporia 48A because of great review and price - On sale for $300 @Amazon a few days ago, now $400. If you have solar, can be combined with Emporia Vue to charge only when there's excess power to save cost.

With two months of free EVGO charging remaining, I installed hard-wire the Emporia 48A charger last weekend and it's worked well right away charging my Ariya at ~7.5kW. App setup is a breeze, but conduit and wiring (4 AWG) setup require safety, skills and tools - Took me a whole day DIY.

 

[new2niss]

#4? That gauge is in stock? What size of breaker ?

 

[bufkey]

#4? That gauge is in stock? What size of breaker ?

I bought the #4 AWG copper wire (Item #72610) and 60A breaker from Lowes. Home Depot should have these too.
The copper wire is only available in black and I wrapped one at the end with electrical tape for red substitution.
A couple of tips for installation:

• The wire is a little too big to fit into the square slot of the charger. I filed the tip end of the wire a little for it to fit.
• It's very hard to insert three wires into the conduit if it's not straight. I lubed the last wire lightly with grease and it was much easier.

 

[blackhammer]

I bought the #4 AWG copper wire (Item #72610) and 60A breaker from Lowes. Home Depot should have these too.
The copper wire is only available in black and I wrapped one at the end with electrical tape for red substitution.
A couple of tips for installation:

• The wire is a little too big to fit into the square slot of the charger. I filed the tip end of the wire a little for it to fit.
• It's very hard to insert three wires into the conduit if it's not straight. I lubed the last wire lightly with grease and it was much easier.

Ugh🥵

 

[new2niss]

I used #6. It’s already hard for me to pull or bend. And the terminal block inside the Wall box or Autel doesn’t have enough room to clamp or screw in. It’s a little overkill with #4 (85A). How much did it cost you? With my run of 100-ft it’d set me back at least 1K. I hired some contractor though. I don’t have tools for the job. With #4 it’d future proof you for bigger battery. Nice. Yea label hot or cold wire to save some$ since they use the same size.
now I just need to find a good solar contractor.

 

[bufkey]

I used #6. It’s already hard for me to pull or bend. And the terminal block inside the Wall box or Autel doesn’t have enough room to clamp or screw in. It’s a little overkill with #4 (85A). How much did it cost you? With my run of 100-ft it’d set me back at least 1K. I hired some contractor though. I don’t have tools for the job. With #4 it’d future proof you for bigger battery. Nice. Yea label hot or cold wire to save some$ since they use the same size.
now I just need to find a good solar contractor.

I needed only 5ft to connect from the outside electrical panel through the drywall into the garage.
Wiring cost:
10 ft of #4 AWG wire: $25
5 ft of #4 bare copper wire: $7
60A breaker: $18
4ft conduit: $5
conduit end cap: $3
Total wiring cost: $58
Emporia 48A charger: $325 ($300 sale price + tax)
Total cost (DIY): $383

 

[new2niss]

Yeah, you save it big with such short distance. I don't think my house was wired to get an EV charger. We're living in O&G town ... I feel like if I need to buy a new house, I have to look for the location of the main panel and garage In my work parking garage, a few Teslas, but I'm the only one with an Ariya... some might say I'm a-show-off among Audis, Lexus, BMWs and Mercedes...

 

[Hank]

This is where I need help from my trusty board members.

Today, my electrician came out to look at the wiring for my home.charger. I will be using the provided Nissan portal EVSE charger.

• the current laundry outlet has the old Nema 10-30R
• the electrician found no 30a breaker at the circuit box. It currently has 10 gauge wire running from the circuit box to the old Nema 10-30R Outlet
• we talked it over and the least resistance path without new wiring (and avoid city permitting) was to just add 30a breaker and replace with new 10-30R outlet. Done.

Here is my problem after the installation was done. I brought out the Nissan portable EVSE and it had 14-50 plug. Obviuosly, this 14-50 plug won’t fit the newly installed Nema 10-30R outlet and will need an adapter. He couldn’t locate one for me on the internet. I am not certain what type of adapter or brand I would need. Suggestion?

How much difference is there from using 40a vs 30a breaker in speed and range?

 

[new2niss]

10 gauge = 30A, max current you can use is 24A. so 30A breaker is good. Using the Nissan EVSE is ok but I don’t trust adapter converting NEMA 30R to NEMA 14-50. If you already add breaker why not go bigger 40A. If you have pix of the panel I can tell better. 40A breaker using #8, and that can handle 32A for Ariya charger.
With Wallbox charger you can adjust the current to 32A easily.
How far from panel to the plug?

 

[atreis]

This is where I need help from my trusty board members.

Today, my electrician came out to look at the wiring for my home.charger. I will be using the provided Nissan portal EVSE charger.

• the current laundry outlet has the old Nema 10-30R
• the electrician found no 30a breaker at the circuit box. It currently has 10 gauge wire running from the circuit box to the old Nema 10-30R Outlet
• we talked it over and the least resistance path without new wiring (and avoid city permitting) was to just add 30a breaker and replace with new 10-30R outlet. Done.

Here is my problem after the installation was done. I brought out the Nissan portable EVSE and it had 14-50 plug. Obviuosly, this 14-50 plug won’t fit the newly installed Nema 10-30R outlet and will need an adapter. He couldn’t locate one for me on the internet. I am not certain what type of adapter or brand I would need. Suggestion?

How much difference is there from using 40a vs 30a breaker in speed and range?

Circuits are rated for 80% capacity for continuous loads. 100% capacity is for intermittent use only. That means the maximum EVSE you can run safely on a 30 amp circuit is a 24 amp EVSE. The Nissan EVSE is 30 amps, and if it didn't trip the breaker, would still be unsafe. Your 10 AWG wiring is also limited to 30 amps max, 24 amps continuous. You would need a minimum 40 amp circuit. Options would be to buy a 24 amp EVSE (or one with configurable amperage, such as Grizzl-E) with the appropriate plug, or run a new circuit.

As for speed of charging: The 30 amp EVSE will charge the car fully (from 0 to 100) in about 12 hours. A 24 amp EVSE would take (12/.8 = 15 hours) for that same charge. Of course you wouldn't be charging from 0 to 100, but can then figure out how long it will take to get whatever your normal charge percentage is.

A 40 amp EVSE on a 50 amp circuit wouldn't charge the car any faster than the 30 amp EVSE on a 40 amp circuit. The Ariya is limited to a maximum of about 30 amps.

 

[atreis]

10 gauge = 30A, max current you can use is 24A. so 30A breaker is good. Using the Nissan EVSE is ok but I don’t trust adapter converting NEMA 30R to NEMA 14-50. If you already add breaker why not go bigger 40A. If you have pix of the panel I can tell better.
How far from panel to the plug?

The Nissan EVSE is a 30 amp EVSE and can't be adjusted down. It's NOT safe to use it on a 30 amp circuit.

 

[new2niss]

The Nissan EVSE is a 30 amp EVSE and can't be adjusted down. It's NOT safe to use it on a 30 amp circuit.

Yeah I know. If he added the 30A breaker, the NemA 14-50 is still ok with adjustable charger. The Nissan EVSE one won’t be good for that.
All in all run new circuit if main panel still good and have space. Otherwise like my case, new everything 😋

 

[FolsomCa]

This is where I need help from my trusty board members.

Today, my electrician came out to look at the wiring for my home.charger. I will be using the provided Nissan portal EVSE charger.

• the current laundry outlet has the old Nema 10-30R
• the electrician found no 30a breaker at the circuit box. It currently has 10 gauge wire running from the circuit box to the old Nema 10-30R Outlet
• we talked it over and the least resistance path without new wiring (and avoid city permitting) was to just add 30a breaker and replace with new 10-30R outlet. Done.

Here is my problem after the installation was done. I brought out the Nissan portable EVSE and it had 14-50 plug. Obviuosly, this 14-50 plug won’t fit the newly installed Nema 10-30R outlet and will need an adapter. He couldn’t locate one for me on the internet. I am not certain what type of adapter or brand I would need. Suggestion?

How much difference is there from using 40a vs 30a breaker in speed and range?

Little confused Will u have a outlet solely for CAR plug in (my opinion) you dont want to unplug dryer every time you need to plug car in?? Might have misunderstood your explanation. I have outlet solely for car in Garage and charge to 100% all the time (Jayway says no issues I trust him) Going to 100% vs EVGO 90% adds miles. Also 4 Evgo pumps by my house 1 always has issues so 3 down for 2 months. BUT!!!! I still appreciate EVGO free for 8 momths. NOW!!! I am taking 9 family members to Disneyland Calif. Thur. Driving over hyw 5 Grapevine will kill battery. From El Dorado Hills Ca. to Anaheim 7hrs. (in Tacoma) driving Ariya after Grapevine Mountains 2 stops adding 2-3 (now 9-10hr)to trip each way.(NO WAY EV) Ariya will sit at home it is a Vacation without watching Battery. I still love Ariya Evolve + with 15,000 miles ALL CITY but that was my purchase intentions so still HAPPY. My other issue is PGE raising rates soon to be highest in NATION.Also Tacoma only has 3000 miles in last 15 months so ready for a trip. Happy New Year to everyone INFRASTRUCTURE sucks for EV until every highway turnoff has easy hookup EV will lose status especially for commuters who need to charge.... So nice to just plug in garage and wake up 100% ( I split my 10hr charge at 7pm -12pm then 12-5am) so it covers 2 days with PGE rates). ALL GOOD HERE EDH (I also have solar but car reaaly eats power producedespecially in summer running A/C also but still benefits)